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An would-be suicide bomber was arrested on Capitol Hill today after accepting what he thought was an explosive vest from undercover agents. Roll Call's Emma Dumain has the details:

Capitol Police were “intimately involved in the investigation for the duration of the operation” and assisted in today’s arrest, spokeswoman Sgt. Kimberly Schneider said in a statement.

“The arrest was the culmination of a lengthy and extensive operation,” the statement continued. “At no time was the public or Congressional community in any danger.”[...]

Local reports by Fox News describe the individual in custody as “a man, in his 30s and of Moroccan descent” who has been a target of a lengthy FBI investigation. Fox News reported that the suspect believed the undercover FBI agents assisting him were al-Qaida operatives.

Roll Call notes that the story is similar to that of Rezwan Ferdaus, who was arrested last September in the midst of a plot to attack the Capitol with a remote-controlled aircraft.  Ferdaus was also in communication with FBI agents posing as al Qaeda members.

The case is also similar to that Farooque Ahmed, who thought he was going to blow up the DC Metro system in 2010, Mohamed Osman Mohamud, who thought he was going to blow up a Christmas tree-lighting ceremony in Portland Oregon in 2010, David Williams, who thought he was going to blow up a Bronx synagogue in 2009, and the "Fort Dix Five," who thought they were going to attack a New Jersey military base in 2006.

In each case, undercover FBI agents spent months communicating and providing fake resources to the suspects before springing the trap. (This isn't even addressing the numerous sting operations run by the NYPD without the FBI's help, described by Louis Klarevas in his piece, "The Idiot Jihadist Next Door.") 

The increasing frequency of these operations is bound to raise some questions about whether law enforcement agencies are pushing along the development of plots that the individuals involved might never have acted on without the longterm encouragement of their "al Qaeda contacts."

The other question is just how many times the FBI can get would-be terrorists to fall for this. 

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CHARLESFRITH

1:03 AM ET

February 18, 2012

9/11 is an inside job open secret in intelligence circles

This is well documented for those who eschew the spoon feeding media like this article.

 

JOHNBOY4546

8:15 PM ET

February 19, 2012

A coupla' quick questions for the chuckling one....

Q1: How many bonefide al-qaeda terrorists (as opposed to wannabe's like this dude) have been arrested on US soil since 9/11?

Q2: How many US citizens have been killed on US soil by bonefide alqaeda terrorists (as opposed to you-know-who's) since 9/11?

Do you have even the faintest idea how many, EH?

 

FUNKEDUP143

5:23 AM ET

February 20, 2012

One More Question

Lets update this narrative to now...

We are talking about the one and the same Al Qaeda responsible for 9 / 11 that is now an ally of the US against the Syrian government right?

We are actually talking about those same people right? As in the US government is happy to ally to the same people that are responsible for murdering thousands of US citizens.

A movie couldn't write a better plot.

 

GRECOSALATA

4:09 PM ET

February 21, 2012

First things first: well said

First things first: well said 'Exposing Hypocrites'

Now: @Funkdeup
Do you think the US is at war with Syria? If we are anti-Assad, and we assume (incorrectly but for the sake of your argument) that Al-Qaeda is anti-Assad, does that make us allies? I gues you'll have to define ally for me because it smells like youre talking rubbish.

 

JOHNBOY4546

3:08 AM ET

February 22, 2012

"does that make us allies?"

I suggest you ask that question to the members of the Congress who are hell-bent on supplying weapons and support to the "Syrian rebels", since those very same freedom-lovin' a-rabs also answer to the name of "Al-qaeda Jihadists".

So either John McCain and his fellow interventionalists are:
1) Stupid or
2) Ignorant or
3) Lazy, otherwise
4) they are venal, because
5) they are indeed suggesting - and quite vocally, at that - the USA should provide material aid and comfort to the organization that perpetrated 9/11

Go figure, heh?

 

DR. KEVORKIAN

1:28 AM ET

February 19, 2012

The Real Idiots..

The writer seems to think that the FBI is wasting resources by conducting long, drawn-out facades of pretending to give our home-grown terrorists help in their plots. Really Keating? You think that these terrorists would just be model citizens if not for the FBI's interference? WHat would have actually happened is they would have made REAL al-qaeda contacts, and been able to conduct REAL terrorist attacks. If you want to talk about a waste of time, start with the judicial process that requires the FBI to create the entire setup, instead of just allowing them to arrest the guy on probable causes once he begins plotting.

 

JOHNBOY4546

7:01 AM ET

February 19, 2012

Here's a radical thought, Dr.

"WHat would have actually happened is they would have made REAL al-qaeda contacts, and been able to conduct REAL terrorist attacks. "

Here is a truth: this dude *did* go all-out to make contact with REAL al-qaeda contacts in order to conduct REAL terrorist attacks.

Here is another truth: no matter how hard he tried, the only contact he was able to find was.... the FBI.

So here is a wild and crazy theory: maybe that's because there *isn't* any REAL al-qaeda working the contacts in the good ol' USofA.

Which means that if it hadn't been for the FBI then this dude would have had as much chance of finding REAL al-qaeda terrorists as he would have had if he went out looking for REAL unicorns or REAL fairies at the bottom of his garden.

You know, because none of them actually exist inside the borders of the good ol' USofA.

 

JOHNBOY4546

8:19 PM ET

February 19, 2012

Chuckle all you like, EH

But it is the simple truth that the answer to this question:
Q: How many al-qaeda terrorist cells are there inside the USA?
has this answer:
A: There are no al-qaeda terrorist cells operating inside the USA.

Which mean that the answer to this question:
Q: How do you go about making contact with al-qaeda inside the USA?
has this self-evident answer:
A: Don't bother, there is no-one to contact.

 

FUNKEDUP143

5:25 AM ET

February 20, 2012

Dude

You need to get off the crack.

 

GRECOSALATA

4:18 PM ET

February 21, 2012

Johnboy

I havent ever seen any drug-dealers in the region where I live in the United States. But Im pretty that they do exist somewhere in this country.

Now I havent seen Al-Qaeda either, but I know that they exist somewhere in the world. That fact that an attack hasnt happened since 911 could mean a lot of things, but lets look at 3 possibilities:
1- The FBI, Cia, Military etc. etc. have been doing a great job.
or
2- Al-Qaeda is a lot more impotent (even with their 72 virgin fantasies) than we think.
or
3- Al Qaeda is imaginary...I get the feeling that this is what you believe.

Assuming 1 is correct: what are you arguing about?
Assuming 2 is correct: even if Al-Qaeda is busch-league, does that mean we should crack open some beers, put our feet up and stop looking for terrorists???
Assuming 3 is what you believe: I would contact a psychiatrist if I were you.

 

JOHNBOY4546

3:31 AM ET

February 22, 2012

"Im pretty that they do exist somewhere in this country"

And I'm pretty certain that you can come up with not the slightest shred of evidence to back up that claim and, furthermore, neither can the FBI.

I, on the other hand, can point to very strong evidence to the contrary i.e. whenever any crackpot wannabe goes looking to join "Al-qaeda" all they keep finding are.... FBI undercover cops.

No-one else.
There is not even the sniff of anyone else.
Just FBI undercover agents.

Go figure, heh?

"Now I havent seen Al-Qaeda either, but I know that they exist somewhere in the world."

And I know a straw man when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.....

"1- The FBI, Cia, Military etc. etc. have been doing a great job."
"2- Al-Qaeda is a lot more impotent (even with their 72 virgin fantasies) than we think."
"3- Al Qaeda is imaginary...I get the feeling that this is what you believe."

Or.......
4- The FBI has cleaned the stables clear of Al-Qaeda, so the danger posed by Al-Qaeda in foreign climes tells us nothing abut the danger posed by Al-Qaeda inside the USA.

"Assuming 1 is correct: what are you arguing about?"

Answer: These FBI sting operations are what are m.a.n.u.f.a.c.t.u.r.i.n.g. these "terrorists".

All the FBI needs to do whenever it hears about dimwits like this is to Go And Visit Him, and tell him that:
a) There is no Al-Qaeda in the USA, but
b) There is an FBI, and
c) We know about you, so
d) If you so much as scratch your balls then We Come Down On You Like A Ton Of Bricks.

The FBI certainly doesn't have to run a year-long sting operation to achieve what one single good cop/bad cop routine would achieve within an hour.

"Assuming 2 is correct: even if Al-Qaeda is busch-league, does that mean we should crack open some beers, put our feet up and stop looking for terrorists???"

Answer: No, I'm saying that these FBI stings are m.a.n.u.f.a.c.t.u.r.i.n.g. "terrorists" where none would have existed, and this is a shameful waste of the Bureau's resources and an abuse of its powers.

"Assuming 3 is what you believe: I would contact a psychiatrist if I were you."

Since you are the only person who is advocating (3) then I suggest you take your straw man, tuck him under your armpit, and both of you go and seek medical attention.

 

MMACK77

2:21 PM ET

February 19, 2012

Not sure I'd put this on the

Not sure I'd put this on the FBI, but the terrorists have also screwed up attempts without law enforcement involvement (see: Times Square, Edinburgh airport). Unfortunately only a matter of time until someone competent attempts an attack.

 

KBC

2:15 AM ET

February 20, 2012

This is dangerous

A common man can become terrorist on the drop of hat. An undercover FBI agent can trick the guy into believing that he is an Al Qaeda member and the guy is ready to blow himself up. What is exactly happening.

May be the terrorist is stupid as all the terrorists are. Today I think Hitler was stupid as well. But he made sense to many people in his days,

 

JOHNBOY4546

2:58 AM ET

February 20, 2012

Yeah, but if the FBI *hadn't* turned up to trick this dude...

.... then you have to ask yourself wether this guy would ever have become anything more than a frustrated and angry man with a particularly nasty web site.

The FBI is doing a good job, don't get me wrong.
Indeed, it is doing such a swell job that there simply *aren't* any more organized terrorist cells in the USA for the FBI to bust up.

The question that this author is asking (and it's a question well worth asking) is wether the FBI is now simply going after these dudes so that it can make itself look busy.

By way of comparison: fire-fighters spend a whole lotta' their days sitting around with nothing to do, but that doesn't mean they should go around waving a box of matches under the nose of someone who has a tendency to towards pyromania.

It may make those fire-fighters look busy, sure.
It may give those fire-fighters something to do, no question.

But it is a very sensible question to ask if that is an appropriate way for fire-fighters to behave.....

 

GRECOSALATA

4:24 PM ET

February 21, 2012

another cracker from Johnboy!

What a terrifically flawed argument!

Pyromaniacs are real. Local law enforcement can and do pursue the apprehension and detainments of pyromaniacs whenever there is such an issue...however there arent that many real pyros and most of them are identified early in their lives and medicated anyway. So firefighters wouldnt have to 'find them and wave matches infornt of them'. The FBI would only be involved if it were a federal matter.

In other words:
If pyromaniacs were an existential threat to the USA then firefighters wouldnt need to seek out the pyros because the FBI/local law enforcement would do it for them.

 

JOHNBOY4546

3:34 AM ET

February 22, 2012

It just flies over you head, doesn't it?

The example of firefighters is an ANALOGY.

Look that word up, because you oh-so-obviously don't know what it means.

 

KUNINO

2:30 PM ET

February 20, 2012

Well, one thing to keep in mind ...

It took the FBI a whole twelve months to bring this guy along to the stage where had had a suicide vest complete with fake FBI-supplied explosives. Twelve months! Clearly, something's not right there.

 

HURRICANEWARNING

2:27 AM ET

February 21, 2012

Most of the intelligent

Most of the intelligent trainers and leaders of Jihadis have been killed by the US. As a result we get more and more jihadi "punks" who don't know which way is up, but seem to still want to "blow up the great satan". This article seems like a knee jerk reaction to another failed plot. As in: this article has no real "meat" on it proverbial "bones". The FBI isn't entrapping anyone here, these men were actively seeking to harm innocent Americans. Therefore, what do we care how the FBI does it's job? These home growns are idiots, and the FBI is rounding them up...GREAT! The FBI is doing the exact job that it was found NOT to be doing before 9/11. Remember? We complained to the media and congress that we wanted our government to protect us. Now that they are, we seem not to like it. How quick we are to complain about something, when it was our complaints that drove that very something into existence in the first place.

Here's another clue to everyone here: The perpetrators of the first world trade center attack, and a number of others, (with the exceptions of the puppet masters like Youseff, OBL and the blind sheik) were idiots. Any man who decides to blow himself up in a crowded area doesn't have to be a genius to pull it off. The only things he needs are motive, means and opportunity. The FBI is currently denying these morons the means and opportunity, and I for one applaud them and their service to our nation.

Have you interviewed ONE single FBI agent involved with this operation? If not...how do you really know ANYTHING about what you are currently writing about? It's a legit question. Come back when you have a complete thesis, and not just baseless insinuations.

 

DK89

4:47 AM ET

February 21, 2012

you forgot the man who was

you forgot the man who was going to use grenades in the Rockford, IL mall...

 

QUDOOS MASTANA

6:07 PM ET

March 4, 2012

good

When it comes to being detained indefinitely at Guantanamo Bay, it's not so much what you know as whom you know. Or whom you are alleged to know. Or whom you may know. Someday.

That was the case back in 2002—when the government's own best evidence showed that most of the detainees had been picked up for "associating" with the Taliban or al-Qaida (and that most were turned in for bounties rather than captured by U.S. forces). And it's still the case this week, as the Obama administration announces that about 30 Yemeni prisoners—already cleared for release from the camp—will not be freed after all, merely because they're from Yemen. The clearance they've received is now meaningless: Men poised to begin their ninth year of incarceration at the camp will remain there, not because of anything they have done, but in fear of whom they may meet on the streets back home in Yemen. The new twist, then, is that prisoners can now be held indefinitely not just because they once knew a terrorist, but because they may meet one someday in the future.
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In light of America's spontaneous discovery of the existence of Yemen on Christmas Day, it may make political sense to argue that Guantanamo detainees repatriated there will turn to terrorism. But it makes no more legal sense than their original incarceration did. The idea that we would hold onto these men based solely on a foiled terror plot connected to their country of origin shows how little factual accuracy matters when it comes to Guantanamo.

A reminder: Despite Donald Rumsfeld's famous assertion that the folks at Guantanamo represented the "worst of the worst," we know that the majority of the prisoners at the camp were largely just unlucky. As Lt. Col. Thomas S. Berg, who served on the original legal team for military prosecutions, once put it: "It became obvious to us as we reviewed the evidence that, in many cases, we had simply gotten the slowest guys on the battlefield. We literally found guys who had been shot in the butt." Michael Scheuer, head of the CIA's bin Laden unit until 2004, similarly admitted: "We absolutely got the wrong people."

Yet all these years later, we're struggling with what to do with these people because some of them may have morphed into potential hardened criminals—perhaps because we have radicalized them by holding them for years without trials. And it's a problem that's only compounded when we connect them to random terror incidents to which they have no discernible connection.

Another reminder: The whole concept of "future dangerousness" is a slippery one in criminal law. Most studies have shown that when juries attempt to guess at future dangerousness in sentencing capital defendants, they get it wrong. Predictions by psychiatrists about a specific prisoner's future likelihood of dangerousness are often rooted in pure speculation. The whole notion of guessing at someone's likelihood to return to crime (or in the case of the Yemenis at Gitmo, predictions that they may turn to it in the first place) is so speculative and fraught that some scholars have rejected as unconstitutional. As professor Joseph Kennedy of UNC recently put it: "Future dangerousness is too dangerous as a sole basis for incarceration because it appeals too directly to our deepest, strongest, and potentially most violent instinct—self preservation."

The argument that there may be some people at Guantanamo who may, if released, take up arms against the United States is rooted in precisely the type of fear and paranoia Kennedy warns about. It disregards the fact that—as the Center for Constitutional Rights said in a statement yesterday—"the vast majority of the men at Guantánamo should never have been detained in the first place, and that over 550 have been released and are peacefully rebuilding their lives." We don't as a rule punish dozens of innocent men because of fears about one or two. And how far can we take arguments about future dangerousness? As Jennifer Daskal, senior counterterrorism counsel at Human Rights Watch has argued, under a broad "future dangerousness" theory, "the United States military could march through the streets of Kandahar, Riyadh, or Islamabad, arrest and detain any dangerous looking male between the ages of 20 and 35.
When it comes to being detained indefinitely at Guantanamo Bay, it's not so much what you know as whom you know. Or whom you are alleged to know. Or whom you may know. Someday.

That was the case back in 2002—when the government's own best evidence showed that most of the detainees had been picked up for "associating" with the Taliban or al-Qaida (and that most were turned in for bounties rather than captured by U.S. forces). And it's still the case this week, as the Obama administration announces that about 30 Yemeni prisoners—already cleared for release from the camp—will not be freed after all, merely because they're from Yemen. The clearance they've received is now meaningless: Men poised to begin their ninth year of incarceration at the camp will remain there, not because of anything they have done, but in fear of whom they may meet on the streets back home in Yemen. The new twist, then, is that prisoners can now be held indefinitely not just because they once knew a terrorist, but because they may meet one someday in the future.
Advertisement

In light of America's spontaneous discovery of the existence of Yemen on Christmas Day, it may make political sense to argue that Guantanamo detainees repatriated there will turn to terrorism. But it makes no more legal sense than their original incarceration did. The idea that we would hold onto these men based solely on a foiled terror plot connected to their country of origin shows how little factual accuracy matters when it comes to Guantanamo.

A reminder: Despite Donald Rumsfeld's famous assertion that the folks at Guantanamo represented the "worst of the worst," we know that the majority of the prisoners at the camp were largely just unlucky. As Lt. Col. Thomas S. Berg, who served on the original legal team for military prosecutions, once put it: "It became obvious to us as we reviewed the evidence that, in many cases, we had simply gotten the slowest guys on the battlefield. We literally found guys who had been shot in the butt." Michael Scheuer, head of the CIA's bin Laden unit until 2004, similarly admitted: "We absolutely got the wrong people."

Yet all these years later, we're struggling with what to do with these people because some of them may have morphed into potential hardened criminals—perhaps because we have radicalized them by holding them for years without trials. And it's a problem that's only compounded when we connect them to random terror incidents to which they have no discernible connection.

Another reminder: The whole concept of "future dangerousness" is a slippery one in criminal law. Most studies have shown that when juries attempt to guess at future dangerousness in sentencing capital defendants, they get it wrong. Predictions by psychiatrists about a specific prisoner's future likelihood of dangerousness are often rooted in pure speculation. The whole notion of guessing at someone's likelihood to return to crime (or in the case of the Yemenis at Gitmo, predictions that they may turn to it in the first place) is so speculative and fraught that some scholars have rejected as unconstitutional. As professor Joseph Kennedy of UNC recently put it: "Future dangerousness is too dangerous as a sole basis for incarceration because it appeals too directly to our deepest, strongest, and potentially most violent instinct—self preservation."

The argument that there may be some people at Guantanamo who may, if released, take up arms against the United States is rooted in precisely the type of fear and paranoia Kennedy warns about. It disregards the fact that—as the Center for Constitutional Rights said in a statement yesterday—"the vast majority of the men at Guantánamo should never have been detained in the first place, and that over 550 have been released and are peacefully rebuilding their lives." We don't as a rule punish dozens of innocent men because of fears about one or two. And how far can we take arguments about future dangerousness? As Jennifer Daskal, senior counterterrorism counsel at Human Rights Watch has argued, under a broad "future dangerousness" theory, "the United States military could march through the streets of Kandahar, Riyadh, or Islamabad, arrest and detain any dangerous looking male between the ages of 20 and 35.
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BERTRAMDICKSON

1:59 PM ET

March 16, 2012

We are talking about the one

We are talking about the one and the same Al Qaeda responsible for 9 / 11 that is now an ally of the US against the Syrian government right? We are actually talking about those same people right? As in the US government is happy houserenovations to ally to the same people that are responsible for murdering thousands of US citizens.

 

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