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Last night, my best friend and I made a toast. Our generation has lived its entire adult life under the Iraq war. And everything -- from the way that we see global affairs, multilateral cooperation, conflict, and politics -- has been shaped by that conflict.

What that has meant for our generation, the late 20-somethings who were old enough to see their peers, family members, and many other young soldiers disappear into war, has of course varied from person to person. But here are some observations about how Iraq has colored the way we look at the world. 

1) We are starry-eyed multilateralists. For those of us who were just learning what activism meant when the war was launched, the lead-up to the Iraq War in the U.N. Security Council was front and center. I vividly remember Hans Blix's speeches before the panel; I remember Colin Powell's presentation as if it was yesterday. And I also remember the devastating critique of America launched in a speech by Kofi Annan, who at that point spoke for much of the world when he said that Washington had pushed too hard and too fast. So as a result, my generation has grown up respecting the United Nations, seeing it (and institutions like it) as offering a more just world. That's one reason, I believe, that the Save Darfur movement has gained so much momentum and was partially responsible for getting a peacekeeping mission authorized for western Sudan back in 2007. We are a generation of idealistic multilateralists -- and despite its flaws, we want our country to work with the U.N.

2) We care about civilian casualties. Credit this one to the countless scholars, journalists, and writers who have chronicled what it meant to be an Iraqi living through the Iraq war. But credit it also to Abu Ghraib prison, where we all saw the worst of war. And to the renewed emphasis on winning hearts and minds that American learned the hard way when Iraq and Afghanistan took turns for the worst.

If this observation is right, my generation could reshape public perception of warfare. For most of history, conflicts have been judged by the toll taken on one's own force with less regard for the local population. I don't think that pattern can hold. Wasn't anyone else struck by the fact that about 4,400 U.S. troops perished in Iraq -- and 100,000 Iraqi civilians did? Plus there's the 2 million refugees who have fled. That's not collateral damage; it's primary damage.

3) We don't like haters. September 11 showed us for the first time that there are people who hate America. But the aftermath has also taught us that aggression can make more trouble than it solves. And as such, we want leaders who take the high road -- who speak calmly and understand the diversity of both our country and our world. But speaking isn't enough; we want activist presidents who go out into the world to seek change -- and aren't afraid to admit if and where they were wrong.

4) We are used to thinking of America on the decline. My generation is in many ways the "rise of the rest" generation. The splits in the Security Council were just the beginnings of the decline of American hegemony in the world. Now there are economic signs (a whopping unemployment rate), military signs (we finished in Iraq but didn't really win), and moral signs (granted I haven't been around Washington for terribly long, but do you remember the last time Congress was so divided?) But more than that, my generation has watched the rise of China and India. We've been abroad and we've seen the momentum that a country like Poland or Chile or Brazil has captured. And when we come home, that's missing.

Of course, I am but a subset of my demographic group, and no one authorized me to speak on behalf of my peers. But like the generation that grew up in Vietnam, we will be the Iraq generation. What that means is not yet clear, but it begins now. It's day one of life with no Iraq War.

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CHALOM

2:55 PM ET

September 1, 2010

The other side of the coin

spoken as a true liberal, but yet this generation to which I am a part has also been able to learn many valuable lessons which are completely the contrary, all it takes is to be less naive.

1.We have seen first have the failure of multilateralism- no matter which side of the world (pro or anti-american) you are on the is no avoiding this conclusion, it failed to stop America from invading Iraq, and it has failed to contain North Korea, persuade Iran, help Darfur, piece together Somalia, not to mention pirates, global warming, over fishing or really anything at all of significance. the only actions that have moved the world in any direction be them good or bad were either made by single states or small coalitions. The UN is a complete joke in my generations eyes, it is by it's nature a skewed body where human rights transgressors decide who's guilty.

2.We care about civilians- this if very true albeit strictly in cases where the victims tell a good story, for our generation has grown up during one of the most bloody conflicts in world history with a huge death toll that no one cares about, I of course am talking about Congo but ask anyone else that (who doesn't read FP) and they wouldn't have a clue. To this generation civilian deaths matter as long long as they can serve a political agenda and "win the hearts and minds" of Americans at the ballot box. (The very fact that you chose to frame this generation by the Iraq war proves the point)

3. We don't like haters- and that's why we know first hand that sometime the only way to deal with them is with a heavy response. putting Iraq aside for a moment are you seriously suggesting that there was a "multilaterist" "peacefully negotiated" response to 9-11 that would have gotten the job done? I'm sure post 9-11 Bin Laden was simply waiting on a phone call and that would have set things straight. Seriously we have learned that in many cases aggression is truly necessary, we have also learned the it isn't to be rushed into haphazardly but the lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan come mainly from how shortsighted the planning was and not the initial motives.

4.Totally agree with you here the signs are pretty apparent, but that doesn't mean its unavoidable. Our weakness of perspective is that we have few memories of the world before the end of the cold war so all we have ever known is that of a Hyper Power America and this more humbling view but if taken in greater context you realize that out of Americas' 135 year history it was a Hyper Power for maybe 10 of them. Decline is relative if we were to have gone from cold war directly to now everyone would be saying how the situation is improving.

So yes no one authorized me to speak on behalf of my peers either but one thing is for certain I for one am not part of your "starry-eyed" subset, and I thank g-d for it as I would hate to go through life being that naive.

 

CAIRONOTONMYMIND

9:34 PM ET

September 1, 2010

If FP needed to put a blog

If FP needed to put a blog piece on this subject then this guy should have written it. I guess I got confused by Emily's use of 'we' but after the piece I realized that she must be talking only about her and her friend. A post like this belongs on someone's blogspot.com and not FP. But I do think a few years after the Class of 99 the kids really began to fall off.

 

JLWATER

1:22 PM ET

September 2, 2010

The other other side?

1. It's easy to lambaste the UN as a failure, but it's ironic coming from Americans since we don't actually pay our dues. Maybe the UN could function if we contributed troops to peace missions or paid our fair share of the costs associated. But we don't.

2. Totally agreed, and I understand your criticism of Ms. Dickinson as being naive, but is it really such a crime to be optimistic that seeing the destruction that our heavy hand has wrought in Iraq might change things?

3. Yeah, the major problem with both conflicts was a lack of planning and foresight, but you don't have a problem with the initial motives of Iraq? Really? I fully support the move to remove the Taliban in Afghanistan but the invasion of Iraq was just appalling.

4. I wish I shared your optimism and I only hope America gets its shit together in my lifetime. I want my children to be better off than I am when they come out of college.

 

CHALOM

5:40 AM ET

September 3, 2010

to jlwater

1. my critic of the UN stems not from it's lack of ability to enforce it's decisions but rather that the decisions themselves are made by some the worst offenders in the world. The very nature of the UN in which a totalitarian despot has as much say as a democracy makes failure built in. For full disclosure I don't consider myself an american granted I was born and raised there but I have now lived in Israel for half a decade and having served as an officer in the IDF my views of the UN are not those of an American.

2.Correct it is not a crime to feel for the people of Iraq, what is wrong though is to feel High and Mighty about it as if you care for everyone in the world equally and are strictly only after justice.

3. Here we most likely won't agree with one another, I was not for an invasion of Iraq because of the "wmd" but rather for removing a tyrant from power and taking away his ability to wreak havoc (yes I do realize how much more havoc the invasion itself caused but as I said execution not ideology was the problem)

 

ACAD RONIN

4:01 PM ET

September 1, 2010

My life...

1) Anyone who thinks Abu Ghraib was the worst of war, hasn't seen war. I have, and my service was in a fairly quiet sector, and that was without ethnic cleansing, rape, deliberate mutilation, or the like.
2) The realization that "Some people need killing" is not a statement of hatred. It is a statement of sadness, born of a tragic vision of the world. (See Thomas Sowell's "Conflict of Visions".)

 

JT1928

10:44 PM ET

September 1, 2010

Ms. Dickinson, what you've

Ms. Dickinson, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 

BEEZLE

11:14 PM ET

September 1, 2010

Abu Ghraib

By calling Abu Ghraib "the worst" you not only show your naivete and unsuitability to work as a professional journalist but you are insultingto those men and women, American and Iraqi, who died by beheading - many times after brutal physical torture.

You really should consider turning in a letter of resignation and spare FP the need to terminate your employment. You have no credibility.

 

MOOJ KILLER

1:57 PM ET

September 2, 2010

Iraq Generation?

I kind of understand how you might, incorrectly, think you are the Iraq Generation. But you are so very much wrong. The Viet Nam generation was a generation living with conscription. Do you see the difference here?
You and you friends never had to worry about going and doing anything to support the war in Iraq or even the global war on terror. The Iraq generation consists of those individuals who volunteered to fight and many of them have fought multiple tours in multiple theaters of the War on Terror. So in actuality they are the War on Terror Generation. That generation also includes those people who actually are close friends of family members of those directly affected. By directly affected I mean those that fight, not BS in a coffee house or wine bar.
Sometimes it is not just about you.

 

MOOJ KILLER

2:26 PM ET

September 2, 2010

and

You may also need to amend your: "It's day one of life with no Iraq War." Please have a talk with Mr. Tom Ricks who actually understand much about the military and the wars of terror that we are STILL currently fighting. He may have a different take on the war being over. http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/09/01/obama_speaks_but_iraq_is_still_there

And please don;t forget that the true Iraq Generations still has about 50,000 combat troops still in Iraq.

 

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