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Walter Russell Mead responds to yesterday's post about the IPCC's recent woes. And it seems we're more on the same page than I thought. Mead's bottom line:

Let me say this again one last time:  the story here is that the movement to stop climate change is being swift-boated right before our eyes.  And just as Senator Kerry and the journalistic establishment failed to see the importance of the swift boat attacks and develop a counter strategy early, so the Times along with the climate change establishment is, yet again, missing the boat on a major piece of news. 

Bingo! And he's right that the Times is missing that story. A tweet yesterday by Times environment reporter Andrew Revkin hints at why: "Journalism Review wonders why US media still not covering IPCC issues beyond old dispute narrative," Revkin writes, refering to a Columbia Journalism Review story on the matter. Revkin, having covered all these characters and debates many times before, especially over the "hockey stick" graph before, apparently has little interest in delving into them again. But it wouldn't be a bad idea to team Revkin up with, say, an Adam Nagourney type who can do the political side of this story.

One other note: U.S. climate envoy Todd Stern was asked today about the IPCC's screwups over Himalayan glaciers. Here's how he handled it:

QUESTION: Now my question about – India has distinctly announced that they will set up their own IPCC because they believe that the UN’s IPCC is not that realistic, that they are a bit confusing and it’s – they’re not reliable. What’s your opinion on that?

MR. STERN: Well, look. I think it’s a good thing for countries to have an active scientific effort. I don’t know what the details are. I don’t know what Minister Ramesh or others in India have in mind. But I think, obviously, the United States has all sorts of scientific work that we do through our various agencies of the U.S. Government. So I think that’s all a good thing.

I think the IPCC as an institution has made a very large contribution and I think it’s an important body that will continue and that is very representative of countries all over the world. So I don’t know what – I’m not familiar with the specifics of what India --

QUESTION: He was talking about – Minister Ramesh was talking about recent controversies about Himalayan glaciers.

MR. STERN: About what?

QUESTION: About Himalayan glaciers and the – some of the facts and figures in the IPCC report which has raised a lot of doubts.

MR. STERN: Right. Well, look, as I said, I think the IPCC is a very important body. I think it’s made a very important contribution. To the extent that there were any – that any errors appear in their lengthy report, I think that’s regrettable. But again, I’m not – I don’t have any – I’m not a scientist and I don’t have any considered view on the specifics. But I think the IPCC as an institution has been quite important and will continue to be important.

QUESTION: Can I follow up on that, actually? How much more difficult has your job been since the errors in the IPCC report came to light, both globally and –

MR. STERN: It was difficult already. (Laughter.) No, look, I think that the scientific underpinning for action on climate change, the fundamental science of climate change and the observed data, is quite overwhelming. I think that to the extent – and again, I make no comment one way or another about whether they’re mistakes – I just don’t know. But to the extent that there were any mistakes in the IPCC report, reports, assessments, or anywhere else, that’s regrettable. You don’t want there to be mistakes.

But what should not happen is that any individual mistakes, typos, whatever they might be, be taken to undermine the very fundamental record that exists from scientists all over the world and from observed data from all over the world that this is a quite serious and growing problem. So I think that that’s really the kind of underlying important point.

And nor should – and I think what you do see sometimes is that people who have an agenda that is directed toward undermining action on climate change grab whatever tidbit they can find and say, look, there’s no climate change, it snowed last week in Washington, there’s no climate change. That kind of stuff is nonsense. And the exploiting of this or that mistake that might have occurred in some part of long reports that pull together a lot of scientific data, again, I think is – I think it needs to be seen for what it is, which is a deliberate attempt to undermine. The fundamentals haven’t changed.

 

BLUE13326

10:51 AM ET

February 17, 2010

It's an interesting case

It's an interesting case study, beyond what one might think about the particular issue, in that, at least to me, it seems so quaint that one reporter or editor should decide what interests them enough to write about, and therefore what should qualify as 'news'. It seems really outdated.

What is news these days is what interests enough people on the internet (and yes, this can be manipulated). Regardless of whether what boils up from the internet is of enough interest to a particular reporter to write on, they really need to write about it, and get over the old model of being an important cog in the designation of what is news. This also seems an important marker in why these traditional news media outlets often have failing business models, regardless of the strength of their brand (and, in this case, the strength of the brand may hurt them, because it gives the reporter a false ideal of their position in designating what is news).

 

ROL

12:27 PM ET

February 18, 2010

Still missing the point

I think the story that *still* isn't being covered is the fact that many of these "isolated errors" in the IPCC report were the basis, or at least lent support to, some of the massive wealth transfers to the third world that were floated around both at Copenhagen and before it. Also, some of the errors in sourcing and fact in the IPCC report were pointed out to Pachauri and others a long time ago (indeed, many within the IPCC itself were the first to point them out), but it was not until *this January*, post-Copenhagen, that there was *any* acknowledgment of them as errors.

It was this bunker mentality that struck devastating blows to the IPCC's credibility as a whole. I agree, it's not fair that a few rotten data points are threatening to spoil all the solid data the IPCC synthesized. I agree, there are those who are using these episodes to unfairly attack solid science. Nevertheless it is also true that the activist talking points infecting AR4 were used to bolster the case for some extreme policy options, and *that*, like it or not, is a story that the Times ought to have covered.

 

BRAD JOHNSON

1:28 PM ET

February 18, 2010

Reporter got India story wrong

The reporter's question to Todd Stern was based on a false premise -- "India has distinctly announced that they will set up their own IPCC because they believe that the UN’s IPCC is not that realistic, that they are a bit confusing and it’s – they’re not reliable."

Despite the misleading headlines from right-wing media sources (IBT http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20100205/india-ipcc-un-climate-change-global-warming.htm India abandons IPCC, sets up own panel), the reality is simply that India is setting up a national climate change service, much like the US and many other nations have.

The Guardian correctly reported the story.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/08/india-ipcc-climate-data
India boosts climate data contribution to IPCC

But Singh emphasised that, despite some criticism of the IPCC's reports, "India has full confidence in the IPCC process and its leadership and will support it in every way that it can".

Ramesh said that the Indian initiative "will help fill an important scientific knowledge gap in the IPCC assessment by providing robust information at the sub-regional level".

 

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