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The Anti-Defamation League has raised the alarm over the use of anti-Semitic and anti-Israel rhetoric by supporters of ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya:

"From President Zelaya himself down to media pundits and political activists, there has been a troubling undercurrent of anti-Semitism in the situation in Honduras," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director.  "We know from history that at times of turmoil and unrest, Jews are a convenient scapegoat, and that is happening now in Honduras, a country that has only a small Jewish minority."

These statements include Zelaya's unsubstantiated claim that Israeli mercenaries were attacking the Brazilian embassy where he has taken refuge. Venezuelan Hugo Chavez has also falsely claimed that Israeli is the only country that has recognized the coup government. More disturbing was a rant from David Romero, news director of the pro-Zelaya Radio Globo, who described Jews as "people that do damage in this country" and mused, "After what I have learned, I ask myself why, why didn't we let Hitler carry out his historic mission?"

The claims of a Jewish conspiracy are particularly strange since there are almost no Jews in Honduras -- only about 100 families.
 

GRANT

12:24 PM ET

October 5, 2009

A good article. We hear so

A good article. We hear so often of antisemitism in the Middle East that we forget to look for it in the south as well.

 

ROBERT ELETTO

7:26 PM ET

October 5, 2009

ADL should get their facts straight

Zelaya's anti-semitism is fabricated. Given that indeed there are very few Jews in Honduras, the fact that several of his closest cabinet members were Jewish was enough to actually bring out Honduran anti-semites against Zelaya in the past. Chavez's rhetoric hasn't been helpful; Romero's rant was downright disturbing to say the least, but it was not typical of Radio Globo, and has reportedly been censured by the station and Zelaya himself. The Miami Herald story doesn't seem totally credible in the first place, either:

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/3501/against-anti-semitism-right-left-or-media-induced

Translation of Zelaya's letter here:
http://www.narconews.com/Issue60/article3855.html

 

BENUCH

12:21 PM ET

October 6, 2009

Another Fact

The ADL reports that there are about 100 jewish families in Honduras. From the flip side, which no one seemed to realize is, that Honduras has the 11th largest palestinian population in the world numbering around 57,000. With a very wealthy and influential constituency. I must make a point however that until today the palestinian and jewish communities have co-existed peacefully. Non the less the numbers are vastly lopsided

 

JJH722

10:20 PM ET

October 5, 2009

Hahahahahahahaah. Alright, I

Hahahahahahahaah. Alright, I get that this is news, but is question in the title really necessary. Why would someone blame the Jews? BECAUSE THEY'RE THE JEWS! Haven't you read any history? Being the most convenient scapegoat in the history of humanity doesn't come easy.

 

JJH722

10:24 PM ET

October 5, 2009

Wow...I didn't catch that

Wow...I didn't catch that comment about the Holocaust on first glance. Whatever the bias stems from, i bet its closely connected to anti-Americanism. it may even derive from Iran. Chavez and Ahmadinejad have a lot of the same fan base, so I'm not surprised that antisemitism has jumped the ocean. I thought it was the South American RIGHT that had a nazi sympathizing problem

 

PAPABRYANT

8:38 AM ET

October 6, 2009

The Right doesn't sympathize with the Nazis

Nazism, and indeed all other forms of fascism, are a distinctly LEFTIST phenomenon, and always has been.

Remember, Mussolini helped found the Italian Communist Party (along with Antonio Gramsci) before he broke with them and founded the Fascist movement. You don't think he had a 180 degree turnaround on his beliefs? Hitler opposed the communists because they were his main competitor for votes! He even said this several times!

I think though that jjh722 is dead right about the source of this particular source of antisemitism. Ahmadinejad and Chavez are in cahoots, and they are recruiting disciples.

 

MIDWEST 7

11:24 PM ET

October 5, 2009

Anti-semitism is clearly

Anti-semitism is clearly wrong, and thankfully most American's have been swamped over the decades by articles and media against it. I've seen films like Exodus or about Ann Frank many times.
But this has become the excuse for any cruel or illegal actions by Israel so many times. The terrible attack on Jews at the Olympics gave them the excuse to also kill moderate Arabs, including their children. A relatively few but terrible rocket attacks gives them, apparently, the excuse to kill hundreds of civilians in Gaza, including again, many children.
Any attempt to examine the Gaza attacks of course is "excused" by anti-semitism, etc., as if ANY cruel attacks, no matter how extreme, are justified by Israel. I used to be a strong supporter of Israel, now I would fight the use of American troops or money for this wild and dangerous country. And Israel has 50+ nuclear weapons, why do they need any of our money when we are broke from the foolish Iraq War?
With their parlimentary system the right wing extremists in Israel always get too much power, even over rather moderate governments. Their extremist's are just as much a danger to real Middle East peace as any nutty Arabs [or our own warmonger's like Cheney, Rice, Rummy, or Boehner].

 

JACOB BLUES

12:07 AM ET

October 6, 2009

Well Gee, Midwest 7, it's nice to know that you actually think

anti-Semitism is wrong. After all, you've seen Exodus. Whew, good thing we have that going for us or else it seems you would have no problem lumping us in the same bin as Chavez & Co.

Oh wait, you do.

The idea that some 12,000 odd rocket attacks on Israeli cities over eight years is considered both "few", and labeled as an "excuse" is so coldly comforting.

As an American, I know full well how my neighbors would react to rocket attacks that landed on school buildings, forget multiple times, just once.

I think the term "paved over into a parking lot" would be a good fit as to how they would want those committing these attacks to resemble when all was said and done.

Eight years. That seems sufficient for a level of self-defense when the group leading the attacks holds onto a genocidal philosophy, as HAMAS does.

Apparently self-defense is just enough for us Jews to be labeled "wild and dangerous".

Good thing you saw what happened to Anne Frank or we might just have to go it alone again. Or, apparently we do.

 

RAYED878

1:19 AM ET

October 7, 2009

Israel/Palestine Conflict For

Israel/Palestine Conflict

For centuries there was no such conflict. In the 19th century the land of Palestine was inhabited by a multicultural population – approximately 86 percent Muslim, 10 percent Christian, and 4 percent Jewish – living in peace.

Zionism
In the late 1800s a group in Europe decided to colonize this land. Known as Zionists, they represented an extremist minority of the Jewish population. Their goal was to create a Jewish homeland, and they considered locations in Africa and the Americas, before settling on Palestine.

Historic Palestine

At first, this immigration created no problems. However, as more and more Zionists immigrated to Palestine – many with the express wish of taking over the land for a Jewish state – the indigenous population became increasingly alarmed. Eventually, fighting broke out, with escalating waves of violence. Hitler's rise to power, combined with Zionist activities to sabotage efforts to place Jewish refugees in western countries, led to increased Jewish immigration to Palestine, and conflict grew.

UN Partition Plan
Finally, in 1947 the United Nations decided to intervene. However, rather than adhering to the principle of “self-determination of peoples,” in which the people themselves create their own state and system of government, the UN chose to revert to the medieval strategy whereby an outside power divides up other people’s land.

UN Plan of Partition

Under considerable Zionist pressure, the UN recommended giving away 55% of Palestine to a Jewish state – despite the fact that this group represented only about 30% of the total population, and owned under 7% of the land.

1947-1949 War
While it is widely reported that the resulting war eventually included five Arab armies, less well known is the fact that throughout this war Zionist forces outnumbered all Arab and Palestinian combatants combined – often by a factor of two to three. Moreover, Arab armies did not invade Israel – virtually all battles were fought on land that was to have been the Palestinian state.

Finally, it is significant to note that Arab armies entered the conflict only after Zionist forces had committed 16 massacres, including the grisly massacre of over 100 men, women, and children at Deir Yassin. Future Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, head of one of the Jewish terrorist groups, described this as “splendid,” and stated: “As in Deir Yassin, so everywhere, we will attack and smite the enemy. God, God, Thou has chosen us for conquest.” Zionist forces committed 33 massacres altogether.

By the end of the war, Israel had conquered 78 percent of Palestine; three-quarters of a million Palestinians had been made refugees; over 500 towns and villages had been obliterated; and a new map was drawn up, in which every city, river and hillock received a new, Hebrew name, as all vestiges of the Palestinian culture were to be erased. For decades Israel denied the existence of this population, former Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir once saying: “There is no such thing as a Palestinian.”

1967 Occupation

1967 War & USS Liberty
In 1967, Israel conquered still more land. Following the Six Day War, in which Israeli forces launched a highly successful surprise attack on Egypt, Israel occupied the final 22% of Palestine that had eluded it in 1948 – the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Since, according to international law it is inadmissible to acquire territory by war, these are occupied territories and do not belong to Israel. It also occupied parts of Egypt (since returned) and Syria (which remain under occupation).

Also during the Six Day War, Israel attacked a US Navy ship, the USS Liberty, killing and injuring over 200 American servicemen. President Lyndon Johnson recalled rescue flights, saying that he did not want to "embarrass an ally." (In 2004 a high-level commission chaired by Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, found this attack to be “an act of war against the United States,” a fact few news media have reported.)

Current Conflict
There are two primary issues at the core of this continuing conflict. First, there is the inevitably destabilizing effect of trying to maintain an ethnically preferential state, particularly when it is largely of foreign origin. The original population of what is now Israel was 96 percent Muslim and Christian, yet, these refugees are prohibited from returning to their homes in the self-described Jewish state (and those within Israel are subjected to systematic discrimination).

Second, Israel's continued military occupation and confiscation of privately owned land in the West Bank, and control over Gaza, are extremely oppressive, with Palestinians having minimal control over their lives. Over 10,000 Palestinian men, women, and children are held in Israeli prisons. Few of them have had a legitimate trial; Physical abuse and torture are frequent. Palestinian borders (even internal ones) are controlled by Israeli forces. Periodically men, women, and children are strip searched; people are beaten; women in labor are prevented from reaching hospitals (at times resulting in death); food and medicine are blocked from entering Gaza, producing an escalating humanitarian crisis. Israeli forces invade almost daily, injuring, kidnapping, and sometimes killing inhabitants.

According to the Oslo peace accords of 1993, these territories were supposed to finally become a Palestinian state. However, after years of Israel continuing to confiscate land and conditions steadily worsening, the Palestinian population rebelled. (The Barak offer, widely reputed to be generous, was anything but.) This uprising, called the "Intifada" (Arabic for "shaking off") began at the end of September 2000.

U.S. Involvement
Largely due to special-interest lobbying, U.S. taxpayers give Israel an average of $7 million per day, and since its creation have given more U.S. funds to Israel than to any other nation. As Americans learn about how Israel is using our tax dollars, many are calling for an end to this expenditure.

 

MARIK7

1:28 AM ET

October 6, 2009

Did Honduras have the power

Did Honduras have the power to defeat Hitler? I think not. So, all that Honduras had to do for Hitler to destroy the Jews was exactly what Honduras did: nothing. Easy enough.

That, of course, is not a comment on whether Jews have or do not have a significant role in the coup.

If life in the US is any measure, it is not the number of people in any particular group that is significant. It is the power and influence of that group that is important.

Here's a wild guess. The top 1% of Americans in terms of personal wealth in the US have more influence with the government than the 10% of the US population that is black.

 

ANTHONYREPORT

7:18 AM ET

October 6, 2009

How did Semitism come to just represent Jews?

I'm not 'Anti' anything but death, so lets be clear I have nothing against any group in particular.

With that said, I've always heard the term Anti-Semitic and was interested in how it only represents Jews when the word SEMITE represents a language. Or at best it represents people that are from a certain area, NOT EXCLUSIVE to Jews.

Some say that the Jews are a distinct RACE. If so, why don't they call people who offend or attack them RACIST instead of Anti-Semitic? What is the origin of the word Semite being connected only to Jews?

Anyone?

 

DIDIERREMY

7:54 AM ET

October 6, 2009

History is why.

Semetic is not a language per say, but a family of Afro-Asiatic languages that includes Arabic, Maltese, Hebrew, Amharic, and a few others.

Hebrew speakers, i.e. Jews, were the principal Semites encountered by Europeans and specifically the English. Semite, though it denotates a much larger grouping of people, became a connotation for "Jewish" as Jews were the principal Semetic population in most of Europe, especially in Germanic Central Europe where the term was first employed.

 

ANTHONYREPORT

8:42 AM ET

October 6, 2009

So really they mean Anti-Jewish only

Thanks for the history lesson. The key part being... "Jews, were the principal Semites encountered by Europeans and specifically the English...became a connotation for Jewish"

Learn something new everyday.

Thanks again

 

PAPABRYANT

8:47 AM ET

October 6, 2009

Common usage

Technically you are correct; semitic applies to all peoples of the Middle East from the Saudi-Iraq border to at least Egypt, maybe Morocco.

But because the Jews were a 'separate' people living in foreign lands and were (at least those who chose not to intermarry with the 'native' populations) identifiable as semitic in origin it became common usage to call opposition to Jewish interests "anti-semitism". That is the Reader's Digest version, at least as I learned it in college.

 

OMLHMM

12:04 PM ET

October 6, 2009

Blaming the Jews for the Honduras Coup

What is wrong with people? Don't they know the difference between truth and fact anymore? Oh, yeah, I remember, now. We were taught that truth is relative. Right? The truth about the "coup" was lost in the hype of sensational stories. Makes for better copy if inflamatory statements from world-ruler-wannabes like Zelaya spout ignorance and point their fingers at the least likely (like a two-year old child who didn't get his way). How could anybody take him seriously? I can't believe that anyone could accept the babblings of a man like that. But then, it takes all kinds. Fools and all. God help this world!

 

BENUCH

12:18 PM ET

October 6, 2009

Zelaya and anti-jewish statements

The ADL reports that there are about 100 jewish families in Honduras. From the flip side, which no one seemed to realize is, that Honduras has the 11th largest palestinian population in the world numbering around 57,000. With a very wealthy and influential constituency. I must make a point however that until today the palestinian and jewish communities have co-existed peacefully. Non the less the numbers are vastly lopsided.

 

TILLKAN

2:20 PM ET

October 6, 2009

I agree that blaming Israel

I agree that blaming Israel in the case of this coup is ridiculous, but just as we know from history that Jews are a convenient scapegoat, we also know from history that Israel
supported the South African regime and Somoza and the contras etc.

 

ANTHONYREPORT

5:53 PM ET

October 6, 2009

Israel Supported South African Regime?

Why would they support oppression? I thought that was one of the prime reasons they formed Israel, out of a need to rebuild what had been destroyed through an oppressive regime.

 

ROBINTX

6:09 PM ET

October 6, 2009

You can just dissmiss the story

There may be something there,
there use to be good journalism.

 

609ALI@GMAIL.COM

6:53 PM ET

October 6, 2009

"After what I have learned, I

"After what I have learned, I ask myself why, why didn't we let Hitler carry out his historic mission?"

The WW2 ended sixty four years ago with the defeat of the Nazis but the thoughts and ideology are still deeply rooted in the minds and souls of people. And sadly, this time it is not even the white supremacy issue.

 

BIGBILL

9:07 PM ET

October 6, 2009

Midwest7 don't let the guy hammer you,

Boy! He really jumped on you with both feet, didn't he! Nasty attack, as though expressing concerns for people other than Israeli Jews was evil.

You have to realize there is an entire industry spinning Israeli actions and they can shut you down in a heartbeat. They have developed all their arguments and honed them carefully to shut down any opposition the split second it surfaces.

So how can you deal with it and not get savaged as soon as you open your mouth as a Christian or gentile on a web site frequented by Zionist Jews? You don't have the time or the energy to take his nasty and sarcastic comments apart and find out how he is fooling you.

So you just shut down and shut up like most of us gentiles in America.

There is ananswer, however. If you want to get a better education without the anti-Christian anti-gentile hatred the guy on this list is spewing go to

http://mondoweiss.net

and start reading the daily articles and comments. It is hosted by a Jew, Philip Weiss, who is a New York reporter and writer, is married to a Christian woman and is also tired of the ugly pro-Israel rhetoric. (He is also very liberal)

 

RAYED878

1:10 AM ET

October 7, 2009

A non-controversaial controversy

The Anti-Defamation League defames others that highlight Zionsit-Israeli ambitions. It also throws a smoke-screen on certain truths, making them "anti-semetic" rhetoric against the legitimacy of the Israeli state.

The reasons are obvious. Even if there was irrefutable proof that "Jews" were/are complicit in the geo-political farce Honduras has become, that should not get in the way of expanding the Israeli state at the expense of a nation once called Palestine. Also, the term "ant-semitism" is assumed to apply to those of the Jewish faith, obscuring the fact that both Jews and Arabs are Semites, soley due to the fact that both speak a Semetic language.

The Honduras experiment is yet another flashpoint Zionism is using to shore up support for an illegal Israeli state that has been colonising Palestine before 1948. That is the simple fact - on the ground. For that is where the genocidal displacement has occured for over 60 years. Just like a murderer who seeks sympathy - and blind encouragment - from a unknowing public, Israel has done everything to pull the wool over many naive and uneducated eyes.

The time has come to not only wake up, but to see a reality obscured for too long, and a truth dying to be told.

 

TEOC2

5:26 PM ET

October 7, 2009

Neo-Con Iran Contra Chickens come home to roost...

Hondurans clearly have a better memory of their history than do we of ours or theirs... can you say Oliver North, Bud McFarlane

from Time Magazine May 7, 1984

When NBC Nightly News reported last week that Israel had armed one-quarter of the rebel army, Israeli Foreign Ministry Spokesman Yosef Amihood dismissed the account as "utterly ridiculous." But Edgar Chamorro, a director of the Honduras-based Nicaraguan Democratic Force (F.D.N.), the largest contra group, told TIME that his rebels received about 2,000 weapons from the Israelis last October. He emphasized that this was a onetime shipment. It was channeled through a private arms dealer, and consisted mostly of Soviet AK-47s captured from the P.L.O. during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. TIME has learned that Israel funnels arms to the contras through the Honduran army. Israeli intelligence experts have helped the CIA train the contras, and retired or reserve Israeli army commandos have been hired by shadowy private firms to assist the rebels. "The Israelis," says a U.S. intelligence expert, "know how to run a secret operation."

Elliott Abrams -- Pleaded guilty to two misdemeanors. Pardoned by Bush (senior and hired by W to bring his expertise to the Iraqi campaign...explains much).

Carl R. Channell -- Pleaded guilty to a felony. Two years probation.

Thomas G. Clines -- Convicted of four felonies. Went to jail.

Alan D. Fiers, Jr. -- Pleaded guilty to two misdemeanors. Pardoned by Bush.

Clair E. George -- Convicted of two felonies. Pardoned by Bush.

Albert Hakim -- Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Paid a $5,000 fine.

Robert C. McFarlane -- Pleaded guilty four misdemeanors. Pardoned by Bush.

Richard R. Miller -- Pleaded guilty to a felony. Two years probation.

Oliver L. North -- Convicted of three felonies. Won his appeal on the grounds of immunity.

John M. Poindexter -- Convicted of five felonies. Won his appeal on the grounds of immunity.

Richard V. Secord -- Pleaded guilty to a felony. Two years probation.

Duane R. Clarridge -- Indicted on seven felony counts. Pardoned by Bush before trial.

Caspar W. Weinberger -- Indicted on five felony counts. Pardoned by Bush before trial..

Joseph F. Fernandez -- Indicted on five felony counts. Charges were dismissed when he claimed that he could not mount a defense without access to classified documents.

 

GRANT

7:48 PM ET

October 7, 2009

I'll grant you the point on

I'll grant you the point on the Contras, but don't forget that antisemitism has a reach throughout South America as well that may have something to do with the recent claims*.

*http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7878145.stm
Of course I don't think Chavez had anything to do with it, just a point that racism can exist anywhere.

 

ALEX CONSTANTINE

1:33 PM ET

October 8, 2009

Foreign Policy is in the Disinformation Biz

Zelaya Condemns Radio Host’s Comments on Holocaust (Update1)
By Blake Schmidt

Oct. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Ousted Honduran president Manuel Zelaya said he was appalled by comments made by his supporter David Romero, a journalist at the country’s shuttered Radio Globo, that Hitler should have been allowed to finish his “historic mission” of exterminating the Jews.

“I condemn that kind of racism and discrimination,” Zelaya said in a phone interview late yesterday from the Brazilian Embassy in Tegucigalpa. “I don’t share that point of view.”

Romero, who says his grandfather was a Jewish immigrant from Czechoslovakia, unleashed an on-air tirade against Jews after Zelaya told reporters “Israelis” were behind “toxic gas” attacks on the Brazilian Embassy, where he has holed up since sneaking back to Honduras from exile on Sept. 21.

In a commentary on Radio Globo on Sept. 25, Romero said “it would have been just for Hitler to have finished his historic mission. It’s true what the Jews have done.”

Romero’s comments drew condemnation from the U.S. embassy in Tegucigalpa and the Anti-Defamation League. An Oct. 4 Wall Street Journal column labeled Zelaya an “anti-Semitic rabble rouser” based on Romero’s comments.

Zelaya’s foreign minister Patricia Rodas said military officials loyal to Zelaya informed her that an Israeli citizen who owns a weapons-supply company in Tegucigalpa had provided the acting government with chemicals that may have been used to make toxic gases, according to a Sept. 25 report on Venezuela’s Telesur.

“It was an error. Pardon me. I ask the Jewish community for forgiveness,” Romero said in a phone interview. “My grandfather’s a Jew. I feel like a Jew myself, though I’m not a practicing one. My blood descends directly from the Jews.”

Zelaya Condemns Radio Host’s Comments on Holocaust (Update1)

Zelaya, who said in a statement that his government included four Jewish advisers, called his relationship with Romero strictly professional and denied allegations he’s an anti- Semite. Romero said there is a “malicious campaign” to use his comments to discredit Zelaya’s push to return to power.

“There’s a campaign to manipulate what I said and link it to Zelaya and the resistance,” he said. “I’m not part of the resistance, I’m a social communicator. I have a professional work relationship with Zelaya, that’s it.”

Romero supports the restoration of Zelaya and had frequent interviews with the ousted leader that helped rally supporters against the acting government of President Roberto Micheletti.

Along with TV Channel 36, Radio Globo was closed by the acting government last week for inciting violence. Soldiers seized their broadcast equipment and suspended their licenses. Romero said Globo has new broadcasting equipment and plans to return to the air even without a license if they’re not satisfied with the result of talks this week aimed at ending the crisis.

Shrinking Growth

The Honduran economy may shrink more than 4 percent this year as the result of the overthrow of the government, risking worsening poverty in Central America’s second-poorest country, ousted Finance Minister Rebeca Patricia Santos Rivera said.

The ousted government of Zelaya had projected growth of 1 percent to 2 percent, before the coup in June that has brought curfews and cuts in foreign-aid, she said.

“Now people are talking about a contraction of 3 to 4 percent for 2009; it could even contract more,” she said in an interview in Madrid today.

To contact the reporter on this story: Blake Schmidt in Tegucigalpa at bschmidt16@bloomberg.net

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aPc1E_NAGKVg

 

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