Who are the Deccan Mujahideen?

Wed, 11/26/2008 - 7:34pm

One must always be suspicious when a "new" terrorist organization crops up. Today's horrific attacks in Mumbai were claimed by a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen. But one India journalist claims the pattern of the attacks suggests that Lashkar-e-Taiba, a nasty Islamist organization based in Lahore, Pakistan, and with a significant presence in Kashmir and links to al Qaeda, may be to blame.

Here's where it gets interesting -- and I stress here that I am just speculating. Lashkar-e-Taiba's main goal is to expel India from Kashmir. In the past, some have accused elements of the Pakistani military and intelligence services of having ties to the group. Pakistan's government has always hotly denied such accusations.

Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari has in recent weeks moved closer to the United States, made some significant gestures toward India, and moved to shut down the political wing of the ISI, Pakisan's powerful intelligence service (that's the unit that tries to steal elections). How likely is it that some angry "rogue elements" of the ISI, aligned with Kashmiri jihadists and a team of Indian domestic extremists, sought to head off these moves? I have no idea, but it's definitely a theory worth exploring.

There's another more straighforward explanation for today's attacks -- revenge. A group calling itself the "Indian Mujahideen" has claimed responsibility for attacks in a number of different cities over the past several months. The Indian Mujahideen sent a warning in September expressing anger over recent raids by the city's antiterrorism squad (ATS). Today's message from the Deccan Mujahideen appears to be identical:

You should know that your acts are not at all left unnoticed; rather we are closely keeping an eye on you and just waiting for the right time to execute your bloodshed. We are aware of your recent raids at Ansarnagar, Mograpada in Andheri and the harassment and trouble you created there for the Muslims.

"You threatened to murder them and your mischief went to such an extent that you even dared to abuse and insult Maulana Mahmood-ul-Hasan Qasmi and even misbehaved with the Muslim women and children there.

"If this is the degree your arrogance has reached, and if you think that by these stunts you can scare us, then let the Indian Mujahideen warn all the people of Mumbai that whatever deadly attacks Mumbaikars will face in future, their responsibility would lie with the Mumbai ATS and their guardians - Vilasrao Deshmukh and R R Patil. You are already on our hit-list and this time very very seriously."

The chief of Mumbai's ATS was killed in a gun battle with some of the attackers today.

UPDATE: On CNN just now, terrorism expert Rohan Gunaratna says that the Indian Mujahideen are most likely to blame, and they are the same group as the Deccan Mujahideen. "No other group has the capability," he said, emphasizing the group's strength in Mumbai. He also pointed out that such attacks would have taken months of planning.

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Despite the similar MO, it

Despite the similar MO, it worries me to see various sources make unsupported links between this group and al-Qaida. The immediately finger-pointing at al-Qaida (which can be seen as a convenient target for a propaganda campaign) and particularly at 'neighbors' who may be harboring militant groups all looks to me like build-up for an attack on/in Pakistan with US backing. I'm not one of the conspiracy theorists claiming that this was orchestrated by the CIA or Mossad, but I am saying that this may already be on the road to being used as justification for military action. Is military action against Pakistan justified otherwise? Maybe. It's just worried about a proper war starting between two nuclear powers.

The moderate Muslims don't speak out loudly enough

Let me first offer my condolences to all the Indian people. Islamic terrorists have carried more than 12319 deadly terror attacks since 9/11 all around the world and things are worsening!
Check:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

What I deplore most is that the moderate Muslims don't speak out loudly enough against these neo-Nazi barbaric acts. Let me quote a poem attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller, a survivor of Dachau Nazi concentration camp, who described the political apathy of German intellectuals to the Nazi rise to power:

In Germany, they came first for the Communists,
And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists,
And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews,
And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
Then they came for the Catholics,
And I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
And then . . . then they came for me . . .
And by that time there was no one left to speak up.

Roby
roby5167@fastmail.fm

regards from Israel

The Mumbai mishap

Friends,

This is more bizarre and unthinkable than one could even have dreamt. All we can say is that this must be among the blackest days in our country in the post-Independence period. Such a ghastly, dastardly, unforgettable and slimy attack on our nation had rarely been seen before.
The brave men who laid their lives and are still fighting the battle deserve the highest accolades and the greatest respect and honour. At the same time we pray for the soul of every one who had to lay their lives, despite being complete innocents (as bystanders, visitors, tourists, occupants etc).
But the way Indian forces and security personnel have taken it up, with braveness, rare valour and complete devotion, in a highly professional and committed manner has shown that we shall be able to get rid of all these dirty distractions and malevolent attempts no sooner than later. The most important thing that has come at this hour is that the country as a whole has stood united and has univocally condemned all these nefarious activities, showing how much strength our Nation has.

Amitabh Thakur,
SP(Intll),
Faizabad
India
# 94155-34526

Bombay Blast

As a Pakistani, I too find it intriguing that only days ago, for the first time, the reach and influence of indigenous Indian terror groups was being registered for the first time, with the arrest of two serving senior Indian army officers with links to Hindu terror groups involved in major terrorism acts; acts that were blamed on Muslims. And now suddenly we have a spectacular incident, too sophisticated for any foreigner to execute without massive facilitation and support base, where allegedly Muslim terrorists have left behind an ID card and a cell phone with a SIM card originating in a 'neighboring' country. How convenient. They should have checked better since they could have also found an ISI staff card on one of the dead terrorists. There are close to 100 groups in India, of all shades, fighting the Indian state and people, including Hindu terrorist groups. India should get its own house in order before blaming 'neighbors'. This coming from a country where close to 600 Christians were killed just a couple of months back by Hindu groups, and 2500 Indian Muslims were burned alive in the 21st century's first incident of genocide, in 2002 and where Kashmiri, Dalit, and other minority women are raped everyday as part of Hindu religious oppression. Please read Zaid analysis given below and the attached report that exposes India's extremism.

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For the past many weeks, the biggest story in India was involvement of Indian Military Intelligence officers in orchestrated acts of terrorism against Muslims to create a Hindu-Muslim riot situation as well as to create a justification for war against Pakistan. Many Indian army officers were caught
and Indian Police was forced to work deeper into finding more BJP, Bajrang Dal and RSS terrorists in Indian military and Intelligence setup. This story had created a serious panic in Indian military and their Fascist patrons in Hindu Zionists. Something had to be done to divert the attention of the world and Indian public from acts of terrorism by Hindu Hardliners. .....Then comes the Mumbai Massacre.

Even when the shootings were going on in hotels, Indian media and army were blaming Pakistan for the attacks. The game is clear and sinister. The Indian Intelligence have diverted the global attention towards another issue where they would blame Pakistan for this slaughter and use Barack Obama's doctrine of attacks on Pakistan to encircle Pakistan from both sides. It is such a shame that Pakistani media is not highlighting this issue and is only repeating what Indians want the world to see and
believe.

There is no such group in India as Daccan Mujahideen.

In the coming days, Pakistan should prepare for a high risk threat response as Indians would go to any limit to open another front against Pakistan to divert the local and world attention from their internal fascist elements in Hindu Zionists and military intelligence. The enclosed document is a BT policy paper and explains the actual sinister game which Hindu fascists are trying to hide.

May Allah protect Pakistan from all enemies.

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The Hilarious Performance Of The Indian Government

The Indian media is playing exactly the same role as the U.S. media did in 2001. Some Indian channels have begun showing the Indian flag and patriotic songs, all of which makes it look like as if this is yet another 'well anticipated' war against terror. Or against Pakistan. But the best part is the response of the Indian government and military. Simply hilarious.

By ATIF
Friday, 28 November 2008.
WWW.AHMEDQURAISHI.COM

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan-I watched this drama all night on eight different satellite news channels and noticed how pathetic and incompetent Indian government and security really is.

There is a total chaos in this city, Mumbai, and even the media doesn't know what to tell the people. One minute they say, 'they are all Pakistanis', and then go, 'Oh no! Wait, they are "Deccan Mujahedeen"' and then say, 'Wait! It's too early to say .'!

Another bullshit you see is that the Taj Hotel perhaps has 1000+ rooms and is so huge surrounded by commandos and all security forces and yet 4 to 5 terrorists continue to hold it for so long.

No mater how super these men might be, 4-5 people simply can not hold such a huge building hostage. So WHAT IS THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT HIDING?

If the Indians admit that there are several dozen perhaps even hundreds of people involved in this then it would be very hard to sell this lie that these are terrorists and spy agents who came from Pakistan.

I did not see a single helicopter in the air or any attempt by the Indian security forces to go on the roof and/or surround the hotel. Are they scared or is it that India simply does not have an air force?

Indian commandos arrived. These commandos were disembarking from trucks, holding truck railings at the back and then jumping out, almost like old crumbled men. I saw few of them standing on one hip holding their hands, ome of them hiding behind blockades.

So this was the level of Indian security and military response. Now about some other observations:

HOSTAGE:

Apparently foreigners and Jews have been taken hostage but this was not admit publicly to the media until 23 hours later. Why would suicide bombers and terrorists hold hostages? Why not simply finish them off if they have really come to die?

India's Mumbai is well known to be owned by the underworld, known in India as 'bhai loag' [roughly translated Brother People]. These terrorists are so good they managed to kill so many including top Anti-Terrorism Force official who happened to be an officer of RAW, the Indian intelligence agency.

But the Indians are stupid. Instead of admitting their failure to control these gangs of smugglers and thugs they are blaming their usual and favorite scapegoats, A.K.A. Islamic Militants and Pakistan.

The fact will be established eventually that there already appears to be a much deeper conspiracy in all this tragic event.

But the Indian media is playing exactly the same role as the U.S. media did in 2001. Some Indian channels have begun showing the Indian flag and patriotic songs, all of which makes it look like as if this is yet another 'well anticipated' war against terror.

Which in fact may turn into a war against Pakistan at its height or war against Muslims in India at the least.

For how long will the world continue to fall in this trap?

There are several gains Indian will get from this act:

1- Election of Radical Hindu Nationalist Party
2- Passage of an Indian version of Patriot Act (against Muslims)
3- A Possible Indian attack on Pakistan [although the Indians don't have the guts to go that far]
4- Possibility of Indian lobby forcing United States to put sanctions on Pakistan by fabricating false evidence involving Pakistanis in this.

Which is really easy for India. They can come up with a few Pakistanis from Indian jails, handing them weapons and produce dead bodies of Pakistanis from these places.

Atif is an avid Pakistani blogger. He can be reached at atif98@yahoo.com

Atifs blog is mindless

Atifs blog is mindless chatter, trying to fuel enemity with India, I have been following this blog for a while now and it does not make sense.
Anyways the facts about the terrorists will emerge soon. And dear friends in pakistan want bring to your attention that there are quite a few Muslims dying in Pakistan every single day because of violence so what are you doing to control that. Stop the hipocracy in reality your killing Muslims yourselves.

atif is a hater

Dear readers. I am human 1st and Canadian second. I was born in the middle east and am east indian. Ive seen every side through a childs and adult view. My opinion is not like the previous so called "avid Pakistani blogger". We have the same kind of conspiracy theories in North America. We believe that pretty soon there is going to be some sort of problem in the new year in America that is going to mess us up. But its still just a theory. The problem here is religion. Hindus vs muslims vs christians vs the rest. People attacking in the name of God is stupid as hell. They claim to attack in the hope of "saving" you from am ill afterlife fate. They are concerned because that is their duty as a avid member of their religion to convert you. WTF?? If a religion is NOT based on MORALS then that religion is not real at all. Conversion by any means necessary is dumb. How are you going to kill someone because they see something different than you??

This dude is saying that India is weak because they havent attacked the Pakis. Maybe they just dont want to. India gave you independence because you were bombing them. Now, you are still doing it in the hopes of getting something more, like a child who realized that crying is going to get them something more. Eventually, they will slap you for your behavior and put you on punishment. Something you would like huh.

Its a shame that people like you doom their people to failure and pain. How can someone so ignorant speak for everyone. I swear if there is ever a person who is east indian, born in the middle east, moved to north america and starts spewing stupidity, i will blog full time. (not kill them)

Have faith in people not your fake priest and scribes. As history repeats itself, you will see that its always those with religious power claiming to come in the name of GOD that dooms everyone...

you loser

I am completely surprised and

I am completely surprised and appalled at the above comment posted by a pakistani reader. Even after such a horrific incident, instead of speaking hard on terrorists and extending support to the victims, he has chosen to post such an immature and shocking comment. I agree that such an ignorant person should not be allowed to speak on behalf of a large group. I am also disturbed at the fact that accusations hurled against India in the particular comment are so full of ignorance and miles away from truth.The comment just exemplifies the amount of reckless and baseless hate that is preached about India in Pakistan.

Listen You above fool so call pakistani(fm shah)

How do you know deccan mujhaideen do not survive ?

Is your govt. inform you about your all terror groups,who are against the India.?Please don't forget pakistan was the part of "HINDUSTAN".It means you born from Hindustan.Hindustan is your father.It is the fact,You accept it or not.and One more thing which you are talking about "Hindu terror group".ATS-Anti terrorist squad had taken very serious action against these terror activities.They are not leaving a single 'Sadhu-Saint'.Read the articles for update your knowledge on News websites & On the Other hand,BJP,Bajrang dal-these political group survive on the Hinduism issues.It is the "surviving meal" for them-I hope Indian supreme court will take action soon against HIndu-muslim political drama.So,please don't take favour to ISI and your corrupt pakistani govt..It is the Big issue.Like you even i am not the judge ,So leave the right and wrong on Allah.I am hindu but I always like to go to masjid.When My teenage friends and All indian youth forget these religion difference.So,why are you remember ?

"Oh Allah-Save this world from all terrorist"

Bissmilah

Hindustan is your father

My dear unknown !

all nation accept that Hindustan is mother 'Dharti Maa!n' and now you create new phenomenon. secondly you should accept why Pakistan separated because of this attitude. you still continue same behaviour minorities in India. If this Discrimination continue then .... you can understand.

God Bless you

Over Obssessed with ISI

I just don't understand that why every time Indian Politician,Media,Army etc always blame ISI was anyhting happing in India.
Can I ask them why don't they highlight what RAW is presently doing in Baluchistan,in FATA and what RAW did during 90's in Sindh?
Why you always talk about Muslim terrorist "What about RSS terrorists,who killed and burnt alive so many muslims in Gujrat.
When Marriot hotel was bombed in Islamabad,Pakistan did not blame RAW out rightly.So i think Indian should not jump to conclusion with any solid evidence.

Is there something called LOGIC??

I totally agree with Atif, fmshah and Irfan...and to some extent with tkkumar
I just don't get this thing, how can 25-26 so-called terrorists hold the whole of south mumbai hostage and the commandos and police and Intelligence just gawks at them...thats just pure stupidity...AT LEASt THEY SHOULD HAVE FABRICATED A more digestable story...a lack creativity i suppose!

They have to allow this to happen, Even if the paki government is involved who itself is targeted each hour of each day by some kind of bomb, thanks to the so-called war on terror, triggered by another fabricated drama of 911.

Such organized attack CANNOT happen without INSIDE support, and just like 911 and 77, it serves purposes some of which were mentioned by Atif...

Whatever Purpose it fulfills, It will be something too vital..coz you don't need 48 drama just for nothing...

I do sympathize with all innocent people who are attacked by such vicious attacks each day, including the victims of Mumbai, Marriot in Pindi, 911 and 77...but IT IS just not about the 'Field workers' belonging to a certain religion ITS about their handlers! using them

Finally i Feel sorry for All people who are persuaded everyday by CNN,BBC, MSNBC and FOX to believe that all this is about few EXTREMISTS, so-called terrorists who want people to obey their religion, its much more than that!

I am not surprised by posts

I am not surprised by posts made by some pakistani friends. This is a show of desperation from them, it shows that they can not accept that their country is seen as international migrane by west. Whole world agrees that pakistani soil is regularly used for terror attacks, still you guys have the guts to defend yourself. Pl get a life.

Our pakistani friends are

Our pakistani friends are forgetting the fact that each day a number of Muslims are killed within pakistan.Why dont these supposed to be protectors of Muslims attacking India rahter than protecting their people with in their country, if they are so much concerned.

By attacking innocent people in India and else where your just loosing everything, also destroying faith people have in islam. Its very sad to see those young lads brainwashed by So called protectors of islam and attacking innocents.

'Why don these supposed to be

'Why don these supposed to be protectors of Muslims attacking India rahter than protecting their people with in their country, if they are so much concerned.

i have read all comments from

i have read all comments from pakistani users..they seem to be following only one line-" only attacks in pakistan are real and rest all countries kill their own citizens to blame pakistan" now this is seriously funny!! dis dumbs dont know dat the terrorist kept 600 people on their gun points so the security men can't just run in there.
secondly,i hv seen many of them pointing that due to the recent arrests of "some" army officials,india tried to divert the worlds attention by carrying out mumbai attacks.
now it is one more proof of there tremendous creativity..if indian government wanted to divert or save those invoved,then why would they bring out the truth in front of the world themselves???? and i need not say anything about pakistan,coz d whole world knows it..except d dumb pakis..

eyes wide shut

i visited mumbai for a month this ramadan, lived at the Gordon house which is centre of Leopold and Taj. i can relate the situation more than any one across borders, i.e in Pakistan.
let me inform all readers that this area and the area where Oberoi is situated is filled with Indian Muslims. at the colaba market most of the shops and flats are owned and resided by the Indian Muslims.

Ever wonder why they would make a shoot out in this area. Random firing for sure has killed many muslims around there. this act is not an act by any Muslim or for that matter a pakistani. the intellegince office for tourists specially paksitani and Bangladeshi is 10 min drive from this area, how come they had no clue that such people from Pak are coming, why did the police ran away when they saw these criminals firing in rage. they should have retalitaed. As far as i know all Hindus in India wear the orange band which is called Kalava and the terroists wearing the same. its shown on TV and they all ignored. earlier bombings in Dehli, while i was visiting, said that terrorists captured had candy wrappers from Pakistan. its funny that the government never take good help in creativity from the film writers to help create a nice drama.
i dont know if a lot of people would agree here but we are targeted by the same bombings and all the facillitation is provided by RAW, one can only find out when you talk to the locals of those areas. they have bought indian weapons for thier sfety and where could these be coming from either across the border or the ISI buys them and sells it in those areas. who sells it to ISI.
By far we have the highest number of 911 in paksitan, and if the world powers can not do any thing about it other than just cirticise then one thing they must understand that thes forces of humans created by the American and Zia will become neuclear wepons for the coming time and will be used by any one any where.
we have all heard that Terrorism has no religon, cast or creed then why point fingers and why judge. it has to the people of Sub continent who need solve differences and try to look into facts oursleves rathe than blindly follow what the news says.

Have and Open Opinion

Some of the out come of Investigations:

terrorists used a Thuraya satellite phone bought from Karachi and two SIM cards were bought from Vienna, Austria and New Jersey in the United States.

The Thuraya satellite phone, located on the Kuber, the fishing trawler used by the terrorists in their journey to Mumbai, has been tracked to a distributor in Karachi. Now efforts are on in Dubai, where the Thuraya company is based, to locate who sold the set to the distributor.

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Mumbai Probe Acquires International Dimensions

SATPHONE BOUGHT FROM KARACHI, SIM CARDS CAME FROM VIENNA, NEW JERSEY

The Indian Express reports that the Mumbai terrorists used a Thuraya satellite phone bought from Karachi and two SIM cards were bought from Vienna, Austria and New Jersey in the United States.

Top sources have confirmed to the newspaper that this evidence has drawn in investigators from several countries who are assisting Indian agencies to piece together the complex jigsaw of the terror plot.

The Thuraya satellite phone, located on the Kuber, the fishing trawler used by the terrorists in their journey to Mumbai, has been tracked to a distributor in Karachi. Now efforts are on in Dubai, where the Thuraya company is based, to locate who sold the set to the distributor.

A scrutiny of the call details on the Thuraya set has revealed that the terrorists made four or five calls to numbers in Sialkot and Karachi during the journey. Efforts are on to zero in on the identities of the persons called,” sources in the Prime Minister’s Office said.

Besides the satphone, two mobile handsets recovered from terrorists killed in the commando action in the Taj Mahal hotel have also widened the scope of the terror probe. These mobile phones were being intercepted, as The Indian Express first reported, by Indian agencies right through the gunbattle.

While the two handsets are manufactured in India, one of the SIM cards was issued by a Telecom company in Vienna, the other by a firm in New Jersey. Sources said intelligence agencies in Switzerland and the USA are now actively working on the purchase trail of these SIM cards.

In a related breakthrough, a foreign intelligence agency has helped land a copy of the Pakistani passport of Zaki-ur-Rehman Naqvi , the Lashkar-e-Toiba Commander widely believed to be behind the attacks.

After initially denying Pakistan's involvement in the attacks that killed nearly 200 people, President Asif Ali Zardari today said the government "will not only assist in investigation but also take strong action against any Pakistani elements found involved in the attack"

Mumbai police said that their evidence of a Pakistan link includes hand grenades manufactured in the city of Rawalpindi, in Pakistan, and satellite phone calls traced back to the country.

The police say that Kasab has given his home village as Faridkot, in the Okara district of Punjab. "We have verified, cross-checked this," Bharti said. "We know his father owned a food stall there".

Police interrogators in Mumbai told The Times that they have "verified" that Azam Amir Kasab is from Faridkot, a small village in Pakistan's impoverished south Punjab region. They say that the nine dead gunmen are also Pakistani. Pakistan President Asi Ali Zardari has disputed this account.

Bharti said Kasab is being held in an undisclosed location. The portrait revealed by police questioning is that of a village boy from a poor family who failed to complete primary school but went on to undertake months of military training at four or five militant camps in Pakistan, the last of which was near Muzaffarabad, the capital of Pakistan-controlled Kashmir.

He said that Kasab, together with the nine other gunmen killed during last week's attacks, had been chosen from a group of 24 that had gone through the same training regime. The young men were prepared with violent footage from Iraq, Afghanistan and the Palestinian territories. "All the traditional indoctrination methods you would associate with al-Qaeda or Lashkar have been used on these men," Bharti said.

And for the People of Pakistan, we are not saying you are supporting this. But there are still huge number of people who are ignorant about what peace and living in harmony means.

And as Indians I guess what they said was right, we got to set our house right. Get our system right. Thanks to Pakis to have mae us realise where we are weak.

And for Pakis i guess their siha and suni factions. and their Tribal leadres have their solution. Let us or the Allied forces waste a bullet.

Peace