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One of my responsibilities here at Foreign Policy is manning the "FP Editor" e-mail account. It's always fun to come in in the morning and see how readers around the world are reacting to what we print. Sometimes, the reactions can be a bit strange, though.

Yesterday, we started receiving e-mails from readers and journalists in Pakistan asking for comment on reports that we had named Karachi's mayor, Mustafa Kamal, "the second best mayor in the world." This would be an understandable query if we had actually said anything of the sort.

At issue is a sidebar from FP's recent Global Cities Index that names Kamal, Berlin's Klaus Wowereit, and Chongqing's Wang Hongju as "mayors of the moment" who have found innovative ways to globalize their cities. The mayors are not ranked, nor are we implying that they are objectively "better" than any other mayors, but that didn't stop the Karachi city government from issuing a press release on its Web site (they've changed the text since being contacted by FP) congratulating Kamal for being the No. 2 mayor in the world. For the record, the three names are not listed in any particular order.

Pakistan's biggest English-language newspaper, Dawn, then printed a glorified transcription of the mayor's press release by the government-controlled Associated Press of Pakistan as a front-page story without ever checking with us to see if it was accurate.

According to the e-mails we've received, the inaccurate story has been widely reported on Pakistani TV, radio, and blogs. Most absurdly, Karachi's city council apparently held a heated debate over whether to pass a resolution congratulating Kamal for the honor we allegedly bestowed on him. Judging by today's e-mails, the efforts of some blogs to correct the story only seem to have confused readers more.

According to one reporter, who unlike Dawn contacted us for comment, "Karachi is riddled with banners by the local government, congratulating Mr. Kamal for being declared as second best mayor of the world by the Foreign Policy."

We hate to rain on Kamal's parade, and certainly intend him and his city no disrespect, but we simply never ranked him in any way. This entire mess could have been avoided with some very basic fact-checking.

 

KALHORO

1:11 AM ET

November 16, 2008

FP Should inquire about nominated Mayer

Now there is a hue & cry that Karachi City Nazim Mustafa Kamal has won the Second best Mayer award in the world

But every non Urdu speaking Karachi dweller knows well that Mustafa Kamal did nothing for the old areas of city (Karachi), like in Lyari, Lea Market, Kharadar, M.A. Jinnah Road, Ranchore Line, Keyamari, Garden even Saddar, except at Civic / Expo Centre surrounding area Gulshan-e-Iqbal, Nazimabad & other Mohajir areas etc. where after every kilometer there is an ‘underpass’, bridge’ or a stylish bus stop, but even quality of these construction are not ideal as every other day, one can see ‘REPAIRING WORK IN PROGRESS’ of newly opened project. The fall of Shershah Bridge, only after a short period of 3 months, still raises eyebrows of many. Amazingly no investigation was done against the culprit.

City Nazim is not the actual City Nazim of the City but appears to be the Nazim of Civic & Expo Centre. Winning of such title is not outstanding because majority of foreigners visits EXPO centre (situated near Civic Centre, abode of city Nazim) directly from their five star hotel or airport where everything looks magnificent, because no foreigner bothers to visit ruins of the urban area of Karachi.

Apart from these the BATHA MAFIA (Money collectors)have changed their modus operandi. Instead of collecting door to door batha, they are now targeting big companies & brands. According to internal sources they collect huge amounts from various Karachi based cellular networks, big brand companies, Industrialists etc. so that expenses of Altaf Hussain(Leader or MQM) can be fulfilled at London. The secret fires at PNSC building were also done by Muttahida Government, so that blunders & crimes can be hidden.

This is some reality of Mustafa Kamal and its political party (MQM).

I would like the FP personnels to put some inquiry mechanisim to check nominated Mayers before publishing comments about him/her. And also voice should be raised against News papers, who glorify the news by referencing FP, saying that this is published in FP.

 

HOMEMARS

10:04 PM ET

November 17, 2008

I know the feeling

I know how you feel when you see these rogues showing up on media and claiming a position which does not exist. If a terror is projected as one of the top mayor then he has reasons to rejoice. That guy is the main controller of criminal activities on the local level in karachi districts. Top mayor! LOL

 

MSAQUIB

7:10 AM ET

November 16, 2008

Have a Patriotic Thought

people who post their comments are requested to avoid passing insulting remarks for the city and country.

 

SMART ALECK

7:51 AM ET

January 12, 2009

Does being patriotic mean

Does being patriotic mean being a lier?

 

MOYEZKHAN

6:40 PM ET

November 16, 2008

Very Biased & Racist review by Kalhoro

Well I just have to say that...
shershah bridge was a project of federal govt.
so why you want to punish Mr. Kamal for this???
Can you proof that bhatta thing???
if yes then show it to everyyone...
this is the age of information only blames can not
clear your point of views... can't change realities...
In some place you are right... as everyone knows that reality...
but you must appreciate the work he done for Karachi...
as foreign policy reviewed his work ...
and who says he has not done anything for KEEMARI???
after 100 years keemri people get the clear drinking water
(a project of KW&SB)
please do confirm your views ... before publicizing it at international level...
do some study yaar!

 

YASIRAHMED

10:06 AM ET

November 17, 2008

BHATTA SYSTEM

I would like to add something here and I totally agree with Mr. Moyez Khan that reviews and judgement should not be made ever on biaseness and racial differences.

I personally feel that MQM itself is a good organization but will remain a terrorist organization until Altaf BHAI is there, that BHAI is same like a BHAI we watch in Indian movies, for god's sake, my urdu speaking brothers and sisters can't you see from your own eyes?

 

HOMEMARS

9:49 PM ET

November 17, 2008

"keemri people get the clear

"keemri people get the clear drinking water" LOL

You are funny ....5 years plus and all MQM could show was kemari drinking water and plantation. Let me tell you a story not many people know about it. Altaf Hussain had a right hand man called shoaib. He did all the collection of Bhatta (illegal drug money, gambling dens operated by altaf hussain and extortion (forcibly collecting money from businessmen)). Now altaf hussain's X-wife was the person who used to come to karachi to collect money on his behalf from shoaib. Shoaib on one occassion kept some money for himself and probably his wife has been stealing some bhatta money from him as well through her father who used to accompany altaf's wife. Altaf didnt like this and wanted to teach shoaib and his wife a lesson. He knew that MQM activists liked shoaib becuas he has been taking care of them so altaf had to create a story of adultry accusing his wife and shoaib of illicit relations. According to him if he let go of shoaib today tomorrow others will take their share his money as well so he divorced his wife on this accusation and got shoaib arrested on false charges. He later got him killed in the jail and this is how he got rid of the two. Mustafa Kamal and Farooq sattar both stopped him from doing this but he didnt listen. This is just one occasion every citizen living in Pakistan Knows MQM is terrorist organization even the karachi public knows about this but because of fear they cannot say anything. Open your eyes and stop siding with the devil.

 

AAMIR.RAZ

12:29 PM ET

November 19, 2008

I'm an eye-witness of

I'm an eye-witness of bhatta-wasooli of MQM people at Saddar... A pathan who was selling wrist-watches refused and they literally threw away his stall and punched him thrice... No bias. True.

 

SMART ALECK

7:53 AM ET

January 12, 2009

LOLzzzzzzzzzz clear drinking

LOLzzzzzzzzzz clear drinking water LOLzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Moyez Khan... have you ever been to Keamari? You can't even spell the place right and you claim that?

I have a suggestion for you, never say that joke to anyone living in Keamari... they might harm you for such a big lie.

 

MOYEZKHAN

7:11 PM ET

November 16, 2008

FP has not "RANKED" him but said...

The Mayors of the Moment

No city globalizes on its own. But with shrewd investments and smart urban planning, a mayor can help turn a regional player into a global powerhouse.
"Here’s how three of the world’s top mayors are climbing the ladder"
Karachi citizens misunderstood the last line ...as this line says They are the top mayors of the world...
so when they saw his name at Numer 2 ...they self ranked him at World's 2nd best Mayor!

But FP should admit that they have called him one of three top mayors of the world

 

ALI_HASSAN131978

3:49 AM ET

November 17, 2008

Open your eyes

I just want to clarify few things which I feel is my responsibility as a citizen of Karachi.

1- One should not disregard somebody work due to ethnic basis; we should not ignore Mustafa Kamal good work due to the only reasons as he belongs to Urdu speaking community. This attitude is really a real sign of declining of our society and country as people are not admiring and praising the good works of other because he speaks Urdu.
2- Let me inform you all people Mustafa Kamal is only Nazim of 33% of Karachi there are other 13 agencies who are responsible for civic services and imagine what a mess has been created by these feudal for citizen of Karachi. Things would have been off course much different had he been mayor of whole Karachi and all civic agencies were reporting to him. The irony is he creates under passes / roads and command and control system to ease the traffic mess of Karachi but the he can not control traffic police because they are federally controlled by these feudal.
3- Those areas e.g. Lea Market, Keyamri, Saddar etc belongs to either Cantonment boards or some other civic agencies where Mustafa Kamal has no authorities to play his role. How can we attribute him for all those negligence in these areas which are not in his jurisdictions? We all should have courage to criticize those who are responsible for such divisions because of their own political interests. Citizen of Karachi knows very well about the reasons of creation of district Marlir when even streets of Karachi were divided into district east and Malir only because of ethnic reasons. Why these people who are now criticizing Mustafa Kamal forget such things which were happened with the people of Karachi. Just go back few years back when there was practically not a single road was in good condition due to heavy rains. Four years back no one could imagine to reach within 20 ~ 25 minutes from SITE to Air port or from New Karachi to Air port.
4- We people of Karachi do not need any ranking for him from any body because we all can see his work on ground. We all can see developments in Karachi. We all can see new picture of this ignored city. He has won our hearts and we pray from him and his life from our hearts. This I thing is real achievement for Musta Kamal. HE HAS WON HEARTS OF THE PEOPLE OF KARACHI.

Finally I would request for all of you please open your eyes and you can only see good deeds of Musta Kamal when you will remove ethnic strip from your eyes.

 

HOMEMARS

9:59 PM ET

November 17, 2008

Why did the Canadian Government declared MQM as terrorists?

spoken like a true mqm activist. All these 5 plus years and you can see nothing. what about the torture cells, target killings of opposing party workers, extortion from all small and big businessmen, we as students had to pay to MQM if we wanted to stay alive and study in the college, dont start your propaganda here this is not your kings (altaf hussain's) media. I have seen him declaring himself a noble and pious prophet with his fake images appearing on every stone, takbeer editor shot dead by mqm, hamdard organizations hakeem saeed shot dead by mqm, so many army men of pakistan's army got martyrdom when fighting MQM in karachi during the Nawaz government. 90 became to control room all terrorism in Karachi and sindh. You guys made him a DAWN an underworld GOD and MQM who should have been a political organization just became a terrifying and bullying organization promoting gang culture and mafia. Stop culling all media and let them show the world what MQM is really about. Why did the Canadian Government declared MQM as terrorist Organization. What do you have to say about that?

 

SMART ALECK

8:00 AM ET

January 12, 2009

Jazak Allah !!! MQM will not

Jazak Allah !!! MQM will not take any CREDIT for being declared terrorist by the Canadian Court.

 

SMART ALECK

7:59 AM ET

January 12, 2009

Before Kamal, MQM had one

Before Kamal, MQM had one more mayor, Farooq Sattar... can you tell us why he didn't these works as you are saying here? Because he was not giving that much money for Karachi.

I challenge you, whenever some fair inquiry is made, it will be known that Mustufa Kamal spent only half of the money and rest was sent to their BHAI Altaf Hussain who is not on job, yet lives in London lavishly.

 

MOYEZKHAN

6:18 AM ET

November 17, 2008

Very True | Applause for Ali_hassan

I really appreciate Mr. Ali for his Objective views....
and I am totally agree with him...
every inch of his comment is Truthful and a ground reality
...
Thanks to Allah! we still have unbiased people...
we dont know Muttahida Quami Movement, we just remeber the revolutionery dev. projects completed by Mustafa kamal....
...
Pakistan Zindabad!

 

TARIQ

9:17 AM ET

November 17, 2008

I Agree and appreciate the

I Agree and appreciate the comments given by Ali Hassan.

 

HOMEMARS

5:57 PM ET

November 18, 2008

Spoken like a true Mohajir.

Spoken like a true Mohajir. Anyone who speaks the truth is biased. Then Is the canadian government biased against MQM as well?

 

AAMIR.RAZ

12:34 PM ET

November 19, 2008

Ditto!

Ditto!

 

HOMEMARS

9:31 PM ET

November 17, 2008

Projecting a Demon

I have lived in Karachi for more than 21 years and going through all regions of Karachi. MQM is the biggest Mafia in Pakistan and Mayor Karachi is a key player working for the mafia baron Altaf Hussain. Foreign Policy "for some reason" decided to include Kamal as mayor of the moment. A guy who hasnt done anything good would naturally get excited to see such projection. So the Lord Gangster of Karachi and Hyderabad ordered every newspaper and news channel to provide coverage of Mustafa Kamal being nominated world second mayor. On top of this Mustafa Kamal came on news channels and stated that I AM NUMBER 2 even after the news anchor pointed out that the foreign policy magazine denies such nomination.

2 biggest news channels in Pakistan declined to provide live media coverage for Mustafa Kamals veneration ceremony (arranged by his boss altaf hussain to score political points and show that we are not entirely bad). As a result these 2 channels were forcibly shutdown by the terrorists of MQM (Mustafa Kamal is part of this terrorist organization) The fear of these MQM terrorists is so big that these media organizations and even the government came on television stating that we all know who did it but we cannot NAME the organization. They all feared for their lives and this is all on tape for anyone to see. Sadly such a shameless and terrorist organization is given projection by foreign policy magazine. I have seen the destruction and fear this elements have created by murdering dozens of news editors and reporters just becuase they did honest reporting and MQM didnt like it. MQM is synonymous for extortion, create a state within a state, wide spread terrorism and killings in karachi and sindh, robberies and car/mobile snatching, organised gambling dens and rapes, kidnappings and operating torture cells (these have been photographed and disclosed in the past on television and takbeer news magazine (the editor of takbeer news magazine was later killed by MQM)

Why do you think the news and media have been contacting foreign policy. Becuase they could all see that there is no mentioning of 2nd position of mustafa kamal and the guy kept blowing his horn. To me this section was a filler and mustafa kamal coming 2nd is because of Alphabetical Ordering. Sadly these 4 lines of praise cost the city and the media alot and we get to hear all the false praise that foreign award winning magazine awarded this corrupt guy recognition. Now you know why DAWN had to print and promote this. Becuase GEO/The News and ARY ONE didnt do it so their transmission was cut off in karachi and sindh. Shameless absolutely shameless both for those corrupt murderers who think they are no2 and those who provided false pojection without investigating what this guy and his corrupt administration is all about.

 

ALI_HASSAN131978

1:48 AM ET

November 18, 2008

Your problem is that you

Your problem is that you belong to Jamat Islami the organization who used the name of Islam and looted the whole country. Who always teaches the lesson of Jahid and the sons of its leaders are studing in American University. I challenge you if you have any prove of involving MQM in the murder of Hakeem Saeed or any person that you mentioned please bring on table and if you dont then stop talking like that. I sugest you to open you vision and start reading other news papers except Takbeer. Tell me if MQM was involved in the murder of Hakim Saeed then why bloody Naws Shraif killed the Faisi Jugno before presenting him in the court.

 

HOMEMARS

5:42 PM ET

November 18, 2008

Ask your leaders if you cant see

MQM is involved in 90% of crimes taking place in karachi. I gave you a simple example of Shoaib and altaf hussain's wife. GO and ask Mustafa KAmal and Farooq Sattar. They themselves brought this out. As for the murders do you remember why Altaf Hussain is out of country because of the murder accounts on him. Becuase ISI has proof of MQM assasinations.

AND i dont know much about Jamat Islami or others frankly they are all puppets working for someone else. I am a simple karachite without a party that is why I'm still alive. Otherwise i have seen how you guys kill and torture people.

 

MOYEZKHAN

5:49 AM ET

November 18, 2008

No Blame Game Sir! ...Just talk about Ground Realities

For God Sake! donot open fire of blames & blames & blames
second remember onething hat we are not discussing MQM here... we were just talking about the Development work done by Mustafa Kamal....
Foreign Policy decided to focus Mustafa due to some reasons... or you say MQM also terrorized his editor to do that...

The whole point is that PR dept. of CDGK misunderstood that review... and MQM started propaganda to publicize this news.... the same way what NAIMATULLAH do when a project of some KHUSHNUMA PARKS completed....

People donot need PARKS & Entertaining sights buddy...
they need tarrific free roads, clear drinking water, sewerage system and other real "DEVELOPMENTs" works

I have a documentary proof. Which says how Dept of Planning & Dev. of sindh (Minister Shoiab Bukhari)consumed each and every penny of funds on their hundreds of project...
without taking any extortion or Bhatta...
I myself done the whole research work over the projects mentioned above.

KW&Sb have succesfully 2 or 3 mega projects Named K1, K2, K3

U should speak or comment in the light of facts & figures
and remember we are not discussing Altaf Hussain or MQM
you also need to learn that how to accept "Truth"
you must say wrong thing wrong
and accept right is right

Be Neutral & Objective in ur thoughts

and tell me who in the whole world do not take benefit
when he get power / authority?
even if u analyse ur ownself, u will also find a bitter truth...
so please be optimist, say some constructive, do good!
take care

Long Live Pakistan!

 

I OWN KARACHI

4:06 PM ET

November 18, 2008

some respect pleae

way to go man i'am really amazed to see how unthankful you are,u carry a load of grudge against mustafa kamal and his team u sound like a jamati to me,show some respect for your own city mayor i dont know where are you from coz u dont sound like a real karachite to me.

 

ZAINHAQQI

6:39 AM ET

November 18, 2008

PLEASE DO NOT PUNISH THE

PLEASE DO NOT PUNISH THE POOR GUY FOR AN ERROR, INTENTIONAL OR UNINTENTIONAL BY HIS PR PEOPLE.

The following is mentioned on the FP website:
"Here’s how three of the world’s top mayors are climbing the ladder" and then then name of Mustafa Kamal
Given the expertise of English Language in our country it is most probable that this was misunderstood by the public relations department.

One has to be blind, deaf and senseless not to realize the development work being carried out in Karachi.

 

HOMEMARS

5:12 PM ET

November 20, 2008

Mayor on Capital Talk still says he is no 2

I dont know what you are talking about please go and see capital talk on you tube. EVen after the anchore quoted this 2nd postiion as a mistake the mayor didnt listen and ended by saying that he is no2 cause that is the way he wants it to be. So childish.

 

AKHTARZUBERI

10:30 AM ET

November 18, 2008

"One's greatness can be judged by one's number of enemies."

I have gone through a few comments regarding the above story. I have only a few things to say.

Those who don't know the past of Karachi and have not been there in the Mayor's tenure are requested to, at least, visit the city once. You will notice the difference. Passing on comments that are based just on your personal whim and not the facts is a childish act.

For those who are living in the city (Karachi) and are not satisfied by the performance of the Mayor, I have something to remind them of. They have another platform available to stage their protest. But the only reason why they are not using the platform is that they don't have any genuine complaint. Their intentions are mala fide. Those who talk about NO DRINKING WATER in some areas of Karachi, were answered two years ago, just after 9 or 10 months when the mayor sworn in. This question was answered in a very generous way by the mayor on a live talk show on a private TV channel. The host of the talk show, who is very popular and is considered to be the 'true' representative of the masses by the said people, played a footage of Lyari (or may be some other place, I can't remember) where there was no drinking water at that time. In that footage a resident of that area was complaining about the same thing; no drinking water available. Immediately after the footage, when the Mayor inquired about the date of recording of the footage, to everyone's surprise it came to be more than a couple of months old. And the Mayor offered the media team to visit the same area at that time as he was aware of the problem and it was 70% percent resolved.

I have many examples to give as I have been living in the city since my birth. I believe in appreciating the good work rather than criticising the ones in 'pipeline'. All that the Mayor had done and is still doing for the city with limited resources and authority (heading only 36% of the city and one amongst 12 regulatory authorities of the city) deserves appreciation. Why only he is questioned if anything happens in Karachi and not the heads of 11 other authorities who rule more than 50% of the city (64%)?

I will end with the famous saying:
ONE'S GREATNESS CAN BE JUDGED BY ONE'S NUMBER OF ENEMIES

 

HOMEMARS

5:53 PM ET

November 18, 2008

AGAIN - THE PIPELINE give me a break

Here we go again another mqm worker with the same pipeline story. Brother MQM has been in power for more than 5 years in karachi. The world has gone far and beyond your pipeline.

"All that the Mayor had done and is still doing for the city with limited resources"

What a joke? They have been exporting millions of dollars worth of government money to UK. Look at all newspapers and budgets. If you dont like them go and burn their offices and kill their people like you have killed the poor lawyers who didnt do anything to you. Just that you received orders and you carried out the killings.

Please try to see where this corruption is taking the country or are you guys still relying on mustafa kamal's promises of dubai.

DO YOU REMEMBER MQM USED TO PROMISE TURNING KARACHI INTO HONG KONG. We forget and forgive very easily. You may have been given some share in the fruits so you guys have to do your duty. My life in Karachi is older than your age so I know where MQM is coming from and what it has been doing.

 

AKHTARZUBERI

11:15 AM ET

November 19, 2008

Facts and Figures versus Personal Whim

My dear, first try to learn some etiquettes. The tone you are using is more than enough to tell anyone that how 'true' your facts are.

I never intended to hurt anyone's feelings. I am sorry if I hurt yours in any way. Everyone is free to have his/her own opinion. In addition, in a civilized society, it is also one's responsibility to respect others opinion too. We can disagree, but we cannot disregard.

Now coming to only a few things you highlighted in your note. You do not seem to be 'qualified enough' to comment on them. First of all, I never mentioned any political party as I believe in the survival of the fittest. It can be you or anyone. When you say MQM is in power for the past five years and did nothing, you are moving away from the Mayor. He is here for, at most, three years. I praised him and not any political party.

And one very important thing. I know from where you raised the issue of lawyers' killings. For every cause, there is cause of action. The lawyers' movement is actually not the movement as portrayed. If you have enough courage to listen than try to understand what is all this. I will briefly explain this to you here.

According to our constitution (1973), our country's hierarchy is as follows.
1- President (Head of the State)
2- Parliament (Consists of the President, Senate and National Assembly. According to the article 50 of our constitution.)

The President of Pakistan and the Parliamentarians are Public Servants. They are responsible for the hiring and firing of the government servants. Above all, they are the law makers.

Honourable Chief Justice is a government servant and can be appointed and dismissed ONLY by the President of Pakistan. So I fail to understand what should be done if a Chief Justice loses trust of a common man? According to the constitution, whatever decision was taken at that time seems to be OK. I can further debate on this with anyone. Feel free to contact me at akhtarzuberi@ymail.com.

It is very easy to accuse someone of something, but it is very difficult to listen to the facts, especially when they negates one's personal whim.

My dear, on this platform I am saying, convince me with the facts and figures, I will apologize. But if I convince you, then you should also do the same. I can never tolerate any compromises on the dignity of our beloved country. It is our identity. Long Live Pakistan!

Best regards,

 

HOMEMARS

6:03 PM ET

November 18, 2008

Need to say More....

"Publisher: NATIONAL POST daily newspaper - Ontario, Canada

CANADA COURT DECLARES MQM A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION

Judge Orders Deportation of Pakistani Party Chief

By Stewart Bell

Canada, 18 July 2007 (National Post): The head of the Quebec branch of
a Pakistani political party is facing deportation after the Federal
Court of Canada ruled he belonged to an organization [Muttahida Quami
Movement (MQM) led by London, UK-based Criminal Terrorist Altaf
Hussain] that committed terrorism.

The judge upheld the deportation of Mohammed Kashif Omer, a resident
of Montreal, on the grounds he is a member of the Muttahida Quami
Movement or MQM. [The MQM terrorist party is based in Karachi,
Pakistan. MQM is a crime partner of Pakistan Muslim League (PML-Q),
another terrorist party based in Pakistan. Criminal Terrorist Shaukat
Aziz is the head of PML-Q. Criminal Terrorist Tyrant Pervez Musharraf,
a mass murderer of thousands of innocent citizens of Pakistan and
Afghanistan, is the President of both the MQM Mafia and the PML-Q
Mafia].

It is the second time this year Canadian courts have ruled the MQM
party meets the legal definition of a terrorist organization. "

 

AKHTARZUBERI

11:28 AM ET

November 19, 2008

Ya Allah, Help us to accept

Ya Allah, Help us to accept our independence. Aameen.

 

ZAINHAQQI

12:32 AM ET

November 19, 2008

RIDICULOUS

@homemars

do you really think that people will believe this sh**t. Is this the standard of journalism in Canada?? every political party is a 'terrorist' party :)Musharraf has slaughtered people. Please provide us a link to this article so that we may read it for ourselves.

 

AATIFALI

6:13 AM ET

November 19, 2008

Kindly check

Kindly check this:

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=c045bc85-f122-423e-bcad-8cc6f2f20031

http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1006705&sid=cd11ef2da81078c4e5cd9400ea4b593e

http://tiniuri.com/index.php?c=2ic

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSISL186008

 

ZAINHAQQI

9:50 AM ET

November 19, 2008

Unfortunately none of these

Unfortunately none of these links have anything to say about what homemars just 'quoted'. And now that i see his box bracket one can figure out the distinction between Mr.Stewart Bell and Mr.homemars.

The canadian post did'nt say half of things attributed to it.

 

HOMEMARS

11:18 PM ET

November 19, 2008

More proof of MQM Terrorism Tactics

Pakistani journalists receive bullets threat

ISLAMABAD, May 30 (Reuters) - Three Pakistani journalists working for foreign news organisations in Karachi found bullets placed in their cars in what a local media body described on Wednesday as an attempt to intimidate the press into silence.

"It is very threatening. This is a serious issue. It is an attempt to gag the press, but we will not compromise on our objectivity," Mazhar Abbas, secretary-general of the Pakistan Federal Union of Journalists, told Reuters.

Karachi has been tense since May 12, when nearly 40 people were killed in clashes between rival political groups, that disrupted a visit to the city by suspended chief justice Iftikhar Chaudhry.

Chaudhry is at the centre of a crisis that has gripped Pakistan since President Pervez Musharraf tried to sack him in March.

Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), the party controlling Pakistan's biggest city and an ally of Musharraf's and member of the coalition, has denied accusations that its workers played a big part in the Karachi bloodshed.

Last week, a shadowy group associated with MQM issued a list of a dozen journalists, terming them "enemies".

Two of the journalists who received bullets were on the list.

An envelope containing a bullet was taped to the windscreens of vehicles belonging two journalists, while a similar envelope was thrown inside the car of a third late on Tuesday.

Karachi police chief Azhar Farooqi said investigations were underway.

Pakistani media has flourished and many new television channels have opened up since Musharraf seized power in a bloodless military coup 7-���½ years ago.

However, media groups say there has been a growing pressure on the media since the judicial crisis erupted. Television stations have been attacked and journalists have been threatened for covering countrywide protests by lawyers and opposition groups.

"Threats against journalists are mounting in Pakistan and the government must take immediate steps not only to protect journalists, but to actively seek out and bring to justice those who would harm them," Bob Dietz, the Committee to Protect Journalists Asia programme coordinator, said in a statement last week.

MQM denounced threats to journalists, though the list was circulated by Mohajir Rabita Council, a group linked to the party representing Urdu speakers who migrated to Pakistan from northern India during partition of the Sub-Continent 60 years ago.

"These threats are aimed at creating a rift between journalists and MQM," Farooq Sattar, parliamentary leader of MQM, told Reuters.

DOES IT LOOK LIKE EVERYONE IS LYING AND MQM ALONE IS TRUTHFUL AND THAT EVERYONE IS AGAINST MQM AND POOR PEOPLE DO NOTHING, PEOPLE GET KILLED BY FLYING BULLETS FIRED BY CROWS AND EAGLES, TORTURED BY STRAY DOGS AND LOOTED BY BLOOD SUCKING MOSQUITOS. I KID I KID....LOOK AT THE POOR JOURNALISTS ON LIVE TELEVISION SAYING WE CANNOT NAME THE ORGANISATION OR WE WILL BE KILLED.

 

AAMIR.RAZ

12:12 PM ET

November 19, 2008

Regarding what Dawn told

This 'fake' story is no surprise for many people including me as the party Mr. Kamal belongs to is (world-)famous for fabricating baseless, which often have been found to be utterly ridiculous. I can cite the incident of setting on fire the offices of the lawyers in Karachi.

However, I'm not surprised at all. Keeping this clarification from FP in mind, what startles me is the fact even Dawn published the news "without ... checking with us [FP] to see if it was accurate"!!

Wake up, Dawn.

PS. I'm heartily indebted to FP for they finally came up with this clarification and stopped the supporters of Mr. Kamal and his party from continuing to 'celebrate' what we now call the fake ranking. Take it from me, had you not clarified the matter now, they might have announced some award giving ceremony for the man.

 

HOMEMARS

10:51 PM ET

November 19, 2008

Proof & Links - Canadian Court Declares MQM as terrorist

http://groups.google.com/group/reportpress/browse_thread/thread/9b028ef39f766bb0

Publisher: NATIONAL POST daily newspaper - Ontario, Canada

CANADA COURT DECLARES MQM A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION

Judge Orders Deportation of Pakistani Party Chief

By Stewart Bell

Canada, 18 July 2007 (National Post): The head of the Quebec branch of
a Pakistani political party is facing deportation after the Federal
Court of Canada ruled he belonged to an organization [Muttahida Quami
Movement (MQM) led by London, UK-based Criminal Terrorist Altaf
Hussain] that committed terrorism.

The judge upheld the deportation of Mohammed Kashif Omer, a resident
of Montreal, on the grounds he is a member of the Muttahida Quami
Movement or MQM. [The MQM terrorist party is based in Karachi,
Pakistan. MQM is a crime partner of Pakistan Muslim League (PML-Q),
another terrorist party based in Pakistan. Criminal Terrorist Shaukat
Aziz is the head of PML-Q. Criminal Terrorist Tyrant Pervez Musharraf,
a mass murderer of thousands of innocent citizens of Pakistan and
Afghanistan, is the President of both the MQM Mafia and the PML-Q
Mafia].

It is the second time this year Canadian courts have ruled the MQM
party meets the legal definition of a terrorist organization.

Mr. Omer is one of dozens of Pakistanis whom Canadian immigration
authorities are trying to deport because of their involvement in the
MQM.

Despite being blamed for the kidnapping, torture and murder of its
political rivals in Pakistan, the MQM has opened a Canadian branch
called MQM-Canada.

Members of the group have worked on Conservative election campaigns,
met [Canadian] Prime Minister Stephen Harper and recently hosted a
[MQM] conference in Calgary [Canada].

Conservative MP Art Hanger spoke at the June 8-10 MQM-Canada
convention, which was attended by several Pakistanis who are being
deported for their alleged involvement in terrorism. Mr. Hanger said
he did not support the [MQM] group. Conservative MLA Shiraz Shariff
also attended. He said yesterday he was unaware Canadian courts had
deemed the MQM a terrorist organization. "Why are we as a nation then
allowing them to have a congregation here?" he said.

Among the speakers at the convention was Mr. Omer, who presented a
report on the "achievements and future strategy" of the Montreal
office of MQM, according to the [MQM] group's Web Site.

Mr. Omer has no immigration status in Canada. A Canada Border Services
Agency spokesman, Erik Paradis, said the court ruling means that the
deportation order against Mr. Omer is now in effect.

The MQM is a Pakistani political party that is part of
[unconstitutional, illegal, self-appointed] President Pervez
Musharraf's ruling coalition. The Canadian MQM branch has never been
accused of illegal activities but in Pakistan the party has been
blamed for widespread violence, most recently in May [2007] when
gunfights between the MQM and anti-government demonstrators left more
than 40 dead.

MQM officials deny any role in attacks and say they are victims of
misinformation spread by Pakistani authorities. Canada's Security
Intelligence Review Committee has been looking into complaints from
MQM members that immigration authorities have unfairly branded them as
terrorists.

Mr. Omer came to Canada in 1998 and was granted refugee status but in
2005 immigration officials said he could not remain in Canada "because
he knowingly and for a long period of time belonged to an organization
that has engaged in terrorism."

In Pakistan, Mr. Omer had been a member of the MQM and its student
wing from 1987 to 1998. He denied any involvement with the MQM in
Canada but eventually acknowledged he was in charge of the MQM's
Quebec office.

The Immigration and Refugee Board said: "Mr. Omer's reasons for trying
to hide that, in Canada, he is responsible for the Montreal section of
the MQM-Canada lead me to believe that he knew that his party was
committing many violent acts."

He appealed the decision to the [Canada] Federal Court, arguing that
the MQM is not a terrorist organization and that the violence was
committed by rogue elements in the [MQM] party, but the court was not
convinced.

Source:

http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=c045bc85-f122-423e-bca...

Copyright 2007 National Post - CanWest Interactive, a division of
CanWest MediaWorks Publications, Inc. - Don Mills, Ontario, Canada.

==============================

 

HOMEMARS

10:52 PM ET

November 19, 2008

DONT FORGET TO CONFIRM - LINK

http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=c045bc85-f122-423e-bcad-8cc6f2f20031

 

HOMEMARS

10:56 PM ET

November 19, 2008

LINKS & PROOF - 1995 Court Case Against MQM

http://www.scribd.com/doc/4929754/MQM-VS-Government-reply-by-Government

In this case the court is given proof of MQM activities and do you remember the findings shown on television about all TORTURE CELLS and the BRIEFINGS given by captured MQM terrorists. We do have a short memory.

 

HOMEMARS

11:07 PM ET

November 19, 2008

LINKS & PROOF: torture chambers run by the MQM

One official's 'refugee' is another's 'terrorist'

http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=a64f73d2-f672-4bd0-abb3-2584029db496&k=91176&p=2

SOME EXCERPTS:

Daphne Shaw Dyck, an adjudicator with the IRB, ruled in Mr. Siddiqui's case.

"I have reasonable grounds to believe that the MQM under the firm control of [Altaf ] Hussain is not only a legitimate political party but also an armed opposition group that commits acts of violence," she ruled.

"In my view there is sufficient specificity in the kidnappings, murders and rapes and other acts of torture that took place as a result of torture chambers run by the MQM."

Ms. Shaw Dyck also ruled that the MQM tried to "intentionally cause death or serious bodily injury to party dissidents or political opponents in order to intimidate them. Thus the facts that I have reasonable grounds to believe fit the definition of terrorism."

The answer, for Judge Phelan, was to send the case of Mohammad Ashraf Siddiqui -- in which the Pakistan-based

Mohajir Quomi Movement (MQM) was found to be an organization that engaged in terrorism -- back to the Immigration and Refugee Board for a fresh hearing.

"In one case a member held an organization not to be engaged in terrorism, while in the instant case, on the very same evidence, the member found that the organization had engaged in terrorism," he ruled.

At the heart of the two Vancouver cases is the MQM, a political party in Pakistan with a controversial past, including involvement in sectarian strife and infighting.

 

HOMEMARS

11:10 PM ET

November 19, 2008

LINKS: The Privy Council Office Findings : MQM Terrorism

An excerpt

"...The Conservatives are apparently beginning to ask that same question. The Privy Council Office did some background research on the group last year and sent a memo to Mr. Harper's chief of staff, Ian Brodie.

The four-page memorandum, released under the Access to Information Act, says the MQM is a Pakistani political party with a history of involvement in ethnic riots, kidnapping, torture and murder."

LINK: http://hogtownfront.blogspot.com/2007/04/perils-of-ethnic-pandering-canadian.html

 

HOMEMARS

11:13 PM ET

November 19, 2008

LINKS & PROOF: Judge orders deportation of Pakistani party chief

LINK: http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/messages/30710.shtml

The head of the Quebec branch of a Pakistani political party is facing deportation after the Federal Court of Canada ruled he belonged to an organization that committed terrorism.

The judge upheld the deportation of Mohammed Kashif Omer, a resident of Montreal, on the grounds he is a member of the Mothaidda Quami Movement, or MQM.

It is the second time this year Canadian courts have ruled the MQM party meets the legal definition of a terrorist organization.

Mr. Omer is one of dozens of Pakistanis whom Canadian immigration authorities are trying to deport because of their involvement in the MQM.

Despite being blamed for the kidnapping, torture and murder of its political rivals in Pakistan, the MQM has opened a Canadian branch called MQM-Canada.

Members of the group have worked on Conservative election campaigns, met Prime Minister Stephen Harper and recently hosted a conference in Calgary.

Conservative MP Art Hanger spoke at the June 8-10 MQM Canada convention, which was attended by several Pakistanis who are being deported for their alleged involvement in terrorism. Mr. Hanger said he did not support the group. Conservative MLA Shiraz Shariff also attended. He said yesterday he was unaware Canadian courts had deemed the MQM a terrorist organization. "Why are we as a nation then allowing them to have a congregation here?" he said.

Among the speakers at the convention was Mr. Omer, who presented a report on the "achievements and future strategy" of the Montreal office of MQM, according to the group's Web Site.

Mr. Omer has no immigration status in Canada. A Canada Border Services Agency spokesman, Erik Paradis, said the court ruling means that the deportation order against Mr. Omer is now in effect.

The MQM is a Pakistani political party that is part of President Pervez Musharraf's ruling coalition. The Canadian MQM branch has never been accused of illegal activities but in Pakistan the party has been blamed for widespread violence, most recently in May when gunfights between the MQM and anti-government demonstrators left more than 40 dead.

MQM officials deny any role in attacks and say they are victims of misinformation spread by Pakistani authorities. Canada's Security Intelligence Review Committee has been looking into complaints from MQM members that immigration authorities have unfairly branded them as terrorists.

Mr. Omer came to Canada in 1998 and was granted refugee status but in 2005 immigration officials said he could not remain in Canada "because he knowingly and for a long period of time belonged to an organization that has engaged in terrorism."

In Pakistan, Mr. Omer had been a member of the MQM and its student wing from 1987 to 1998. He denied any involvement with the MQM in Canada but eventually acknowledged he was in charge of the MQM's Quebec office.

The Immigration and Refugee Board said "Mr. Omer's reasons for trying to hide that, in Canada, he is responsible for the Montreal section of the MQM-Canada lead me to believe that he knew that his party was committing many violent acts."

He appealed the decision to the Federal Court, arguing that the MQM is not a terrorist organization and that the violence was committed by rogue elements in the party, but the court was not convinced.

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SAAD

3:38 AM ET

November 20, 2008

MQM

we have examine to some facts before we support or vote for some party. it is the right of the people of karachi to vote for MQM. it is also a fact that MQM is the largest political party in karachi. but it is also a fact that MQM has many violotios otf the law and the constitution. the most recent being the curbing of the freedom of the press(violation of article 19) by stopping the transmission of two news channnels. both channels have accused the the MQM for that stoppage.it is also interesting that one iof the channels is dubai based;the other, Karachi. MQm also didnt allow Imran khan from coming to Karachi on various occasions, which was is in violation of article 15 of the constitution. it is also pertinent that MQM has has not got rid of violence after remaining in power for atleast 5 years. MQM sided with a usurper in previous years when ordinary people were being beaten up by police, for raising their voices for justice and democracy.

 

ZAINHAQQI

7:13 AM ET

November 20, 2008

Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

THIS IS A PROOF OF WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO MQM AND HOW IT HAS BEEN VICTIMIZED AND ITS IMAGE TARNISHED.THIS REPORT WAS PUBLISHED BY CANADIAN IMMIGRATION BOARD IN 1997 AND YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF THEIR VIEWS ON MQM. THIS REPORT IS POSTED ON 'UNHCR'WEBSITE, CAN IT BE MORE CREDIBLE?. IF U HAVE A MORE RELIABLE SOURCE KINDLY RESPOND.

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/topic,463af2212,469f2eb02,3ae6a83c4,0.html

2.1 Police Action

In the spring of 1996 Karachi police, in coordination with the paramilitary Rangers[2]2, were completing a massive crackdown on suspected MQM supporters that had been building since July 1995, when key military and police officials were replaced and security forces were reportedly given a free hand to destroy the MQM leadership using whatever means necessary (The Herald Mar. 1996a, 46a-46b, 47-48; ibid. Mar. 1996b, 25-26; Jane's Intelligence Review July 1996). In March 1996 the Karachi monthly The Herald reported a wave of fake encounter killings, often accompanied by torture, of suspected MQM activists, staged by police and Rangers and supported by Medico-Legal Officers (MLOs) and police surgeons untrained in forensic medicine and unlikely to challenge security forces' stories (Mar. 1996a, 46a-46b; ibid. Mar. 1996b, 25-27; ibid. Mar. 1996c, 32-33). According to Jane's Intelligence Review, "there can be little doubt that the government sanctioned the use of extra-judicial methods to eliminate key terrorist suspects" (July 1996). As well, The Herald reported that "many of those killed in fake encounters are people whose only crime was to be politically active and who had never been known for any kind of violent act" (Mar. 1996b, 26, 30). Others, according to The Herald, were victimized simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and then later were labelled as MQM activists (ibid., 31).

Tactics used by security forces included stepped-up patrols in MQM-dominated areas, cordon-and-search operations and round-ups of able-bodied males, the use of reward money and torture to obtain information, selective tapping of phone lines and intense surveillance of suspects, and the banning of mobile phones and pagers, which had been used heavily by the MQM[3]3 (HRW Dec. 1996, 176; Jane's Intelligence Review July 1996; The Herald Mar. 1996a, 46b; ibid. Mar. 1996b, 26; UN 15 Oct. 1996, 5).

The most controversial tactic, however, was the use of targeted extrajudicial killings—a policy officially denied by security forces and government officials, but widely alleged by other sources, including President Leghari, who cited government-sponsored extrajudicial killings in Karachi as a major reason for dismissing the Bhutto government in November 1996 (Country Reports 1996 1997, 1466; India Abroad 15 Nov. 1996; AI Nov. 1996, 1; HRW Dec. 1996, 176; The Herald Feb. 1996). Torture was often involved: according to The Herald, most of the suspected MQM activists killed by security forces in early 1996 "were picked up, tortured to extract information and murdered in cold blood" (ibid. Mar. 1996b, 26; see also Country Reports 1996 1997, 1466; HRW Dec. 1996, 176). The Herald also stated that "extreme forms of torture, with detainees being burnt with cigarettes and iron rods, beaten, cut with razors, having their flesh gouged out and their bones broken seemed to be the norm rather than the exception" (ibid., 30; see also UN 15 Oct. 1996, 5, 21).

By various accounts the security forces' campaign hit hard against the MQM leadership, forcing many of those not killed or arrested to flee the country or go underground (AFP 9 Jan. 1997; The Herald Mar. 1996a, 46b; ibid. Feb. 1997; Asian Survey July 1996c, 671; India Abroad 12 Apr. 1996; The Economist 1-7 June 1996). In June 1996 The Economist reported

The MQM is wounded. Of its 26 members of Sindh's provincial assembly, all but three are in jail or live abroad. The party leader, Altaf Hussein, is in exile in London. Thousands of party supporters are in hiding (ibid.; see also India Abroad 12 Apr. 1996).

Similarly, in April 1996 India Abroad reported that according to a submission to the UN Commission on Human Rights by the Cairo-based Afro-Asian Peoples Solidarity Group,

700 MQM workers are in jail in Islamabad, 50 in Rawalpindi, more than 100 in Karachi, 28 in Landhi, 287 in Khairpur, 300 in Sukkur, 200 in Jacobabad, 400 in Hyderabad and hundreds more under what is called house arrest in Islamabad (12 Apr. 1996).

In 1996 the MQM estimated that up to 5,000 of its members were in prison in Pakistan, although according to Country Reports 1996 "this number is impossible to confirm" (1997, 1469).

Allegations of corruption and misuse of power accompanied the security forces' campaign against the MQM (UN 15 Oct. 1996, 21-22; Jane's Intelligence Review July 1996; Country Reports 1996 1997, 1466; AFP 18 Feb. 1996). The use of extortion against MQM suspects and their families was widely reported, and security forces were criticised for allegedly falsifying accounts of the deaths of MQM suspects in their custody (UN 15 Oct. 1996, 21-22; Jane's Intelligence Review July 1996; Country Reports 1996 1997, 1466; HRW Dec. 1996, 176; The Herald Mar. 1996d, 38).

Corruption is alleged to be widespread throughout Pakistan's police forces (Country Reports 1996 1997, 1468; UN 15 Oct. 1996, 6, 26). According to Country Reports 1996, in the spring of 1996 President Leghari

alleged that police stations are sold—meaning that police officials pay bribes to the politicians and senior officials in the department in order to get posted to police stations of their choice. They then recoup their investments by extorting money from the citizenry (1997, 1468).

 

HOMEMARS

4:55 PM ET

November 20, 2008

My Report 2007 - Your Study 1997

Which one is credible mine or yours. I am presenting a report that includes additonal 10 years of torture and terror. Your report includes clippings from newspapers and journals done in 1997.

Canada declares MQM as terrorist in 2007 end of story.

 

HOMEMARS

5:02 PM ET

November 20, 2008

US Department of Homeland Security on Altaf Hussian and MQM

SINCE YOU LIKE UNHCR website so much i thought i would give you a dose of your own medicine but as always it is not an old report.

Some excerpts FIRST:

"In the mid-1990s, the MQM-A was heavily involved in the widespread political violence that wracked Pakistan's southern Sindh province, particularly Karachi, the port city that is the country's commercial capital. MQM-A militants fought government forces, breakaway MQM factions, and militants from other ethnic-based movements. In the mid-1990s, the U.S. State Department, Amnesty International, and others accused the MQM-A and a rival faction of summary killings, torture, and other abuses"

DOES THIS RING A BELL...THE SAME THING HAS HAPPENED AGAIN...AND DO YOU REMEMBER ZAFAR ABBAS..READ ON

"in 1990 MQM leader Hussein publicly threatened the editor of the monthly NEWSLINE magazine after he published an article on the MQM's alleged use of torture against dissident members (U.S. DOS Feb 1991). The following year, a prominent journalist, Zafar Abbas, was severely beaten in Karachi in an attack that was widely blamed on MQM leaders angered over articles by Abbas describing the party's factionalization. The same year, MQM activists assaulted scores of vendors selling DAWN, Pakistan's largest English-language newspaper, and other periodicals owned by Herald Publications (U.S. DOS Feb 1992)."

The MQM-A has also frequently called strikes in Karachi and other cities in Sindh province and used killings and other violence to keep shops closed and people off the streets. During strikes, MQM-A activists have ransacked businesses that remained open and attacked motorists and pedestrians who ventured outside (U.S. DOS Feb 1996; Jane's 14 Feb 2003).

The MQM-A allegedly raises funds through extortion, narcotics smuggling, and other criminal activities. In addition, Mohajirs in Pakistan and overseas provide funds to the MQM-A through charitable foundations (Jane's 14 Feb 2003).

 

HOMEMARS

5:04 PM ET

November 20, 2008

PROOF & LINK

http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/refworld/rwmain?page=search&docid=414fe5aa4&skip=0&query=mqm

 

HOMEMARS

5:31 PM ET

November 20, 2008

House of Commons - MQM a terrorist cell operating from Edgware

Mr. George Galloway on MQM & Altaf Hussain

http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm200607/cmhansrd/cm070611/debtext/70611-0021.htm

==========================================================
EXCERPTS:

why is Altaf Hussain being allowed to conduct from a sofa in Edgware a terrorist campaign and a campaign of extortion of businesses and citizens in Sindh, and why was he given British citizenship? I would like the Minister to answer the following question tonight, and if he does not have the answer to hand I would like him to write to me to inform me of it: was Altaf Hussain ever refused British citizenship; and, if he was, what changed between that refusal and the granting of citizenship to him? It is extraordinary that in the middle of a so-called war on terror there is such a bloody reign of terror in a major Pakistani city—and there are millions of Pakistanis who are citizens of our country. A terrorist cell is operating from Edgware in the form of the MQM.

This man is the godfather of Sindh—he is the godfather of Karachi—and he is living high on the hog from the extortion of the citizens of Karachi.

On 12 May, the Government of Sindh, a coalition Government of Musharraf’s king's party and the Muttahida Quami Movement, led from London by a British citizen, Altaf Hussain, to whom I shall return, laid siege to the city. The main thoroughfares were blocked, lawyers and their supporters were attacked outside the Karachi Bar with batons and the MQM militants fired bullets indiscriminately into the peaceful demonstrators. Eleven members of the Pakistan Peoples party were killed, 10 members of the Justice Movement of Imran Khan"

The US State Department—I quote it because the United States Government often act in synchronicity with our own—says that the MQM, which is the power in Karachi,

“has been widely accused of human rights abuses since its foundation two decades ago”

and it goes on:

“In the mid-1990s, the MQM-A was heavily involved”—

not alleged to be heavily involved—

“in the widespread political violence that wracked Pakistan’s southern Sindh province”.

 

SAAD

1:26 AM ET

November 21, 2008

changing images

Nobody is favoring what has been done to MQM. Even if MQM activists had done someting wrong, they should have been put on trial. But the point is MQM is doing nothing to improve its image. By grabbing power in Karachi,by closing doing channels in karachi, they are not improving their image.

 

ASFEEN

11:29 PM ET

November 21, 2008

Pakistan's biggest enemy

I hate to say but it's true that India is not the biggest enemy of Pakistan. Pakistan's biggest enemies are Pakistanis themselves.

I don't care if Mustafa Kamal was ranked #2, #57 or even lower; all I care about is a Pakistani is acknowledge for his hard work outside of country. But alas, we didn't like it. We have seen our names mentioned as terrorist, illiterate, extremist, corrupt and so many other disrespectful things, but none of us have ever argued the stories, no fact check, no clarification nothing. But as soon as we see someone mentioned positively, we are all yelling screaming complaining and show the lack of tolerance we have for our own countryman.

Once again I am not asking you to believe anything anyone claims, I did the same... I checked FP's website to confirm the story, but please show some respect... not for others but for yourself. Come out of the cocoon of racism and class be Pakistani, be a Muslim, or at least be a Human being.

The worst thing is that education didn't change anything in you, all of the people writing here have got some education but for what... nothing... nothing at all.

God bless Pakistan and Humanity and show us the path of those who He favored not of those who He angered upon (Ameen)

 

SAAD

4:47 AM ET

November 24, 2008

pride

I agree with asfeen. All of us should be proud when any Pakistani gets recognition. Recently, justice Iftikhar has got medal of freedom. i think those who are writing here should express their joy by congratulating him here.

 

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