Happy Hour open thread

Posted By Blake Hounshell Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 5:00 PM Share


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Is Hillary Clinton finished? Discuss. Or any other topic that suits your fancy.

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ARPITMAN

5:30 PM ET

February 28, 2008

She'll be back...with a

She'll be back...with a vengeance.

 

DULLSTEELPEAHEN

5:43 PM ET

February 28, 2008

I hope she's done.

But I also hope she has a place in the Obama Administration.

; )

 

PIGASUS

6:02 PM ET

February 28, 2008

Define "finished"

I think her early campaign took a lot for granted. It seemed to me that she was running as the incumbent.

She could still pull it out.

It looks to me like the nominee is going to be selected in a smoke-filled room.

Interesting times...

Blue Skies,

-->Preston

You are what you fight for.

 

DULLSTEELPEAHEN

6:18 PM ET

February 28, 2008

The Norwegians

Those goody goody Norwegians are going to be the last humans on Earth. While pursuing humanitarian foreign policy, funding development projects abroad, and championing gender equality...they're secretly resigned to the fact that the rest of us will eventually let them down by killing each other off through nuclear war or somesuch.

Check out their doomsday seed vault.

http://iht.com/articles/2008/02/28/europe/seed.php

And our leaders barely think past the next election cycle, sheesh!

 

FLYONBLUE

6:32 PM ET

February 28, 2008

Does anyone else think that

Does anyone else think that the entire nomination process is an overly costly process that weakens the parties rather than strengthens them?

Hillary spent many millions in contests she would lose. I for one advocate the matching principle of charity donations to organizations supporting Aid to more impoverished regions of the globe. That way, as a political contributor, you'd be helping the world: rather than just distracting the United States populace from hearing anything other than Election 08 information when listening to NPR or watching TV News.

my 2 cents,

-alex

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Blue Skies Ahead

 

JERSE

8:40 PM ET

February 28, 2008

All that campaigning around

All that campaigning around the country - that's helping our economy. Hundreds of industries gain from the presidential campaigns - it's like winning the lottery if a presidential candidate decides to hold a speech in your town. Just think about it - advertising, air travel, arenas - and those are just the A's. Those millions of dollars aren't being wasted - it's being recycled into our economy.

If the candidates were to have spent all that money on charities to help OTHER nations, in a time where they were running for president in OUR country, especially now on the brink of a recession - do you think the American people would want to vote for that person? Would you want that person in control of the American economy?

 

SANCHOPANZA

6:34 PM ET

February 28, 2008

HRC

Mullet galore.

 

GH

7:45 PM ET

February 28, 2008

Hillary isn't done...yet.

Hillary isn't done...yet. The idea that she's toasted because she's behind Obama in delegate count is a bit silly; Sure, she'll need to win by a good margin to overcome the delegate gap, but its not inconceivable. Beyond that, nobody said the same thing about Obama when the positions were reversed.

That being said, even though the delegate count lead is small, Obama took the "mantle of inevitability" that Hilly wore for so long; Right now, he seems unbeatable, and that's going to hurt Hillary in terms of the ever-important superdelegates jumping ship (a la Lewis), as well as the upcoming states (remember, there's quite a few states to still have primaries). I think if she can pull out Texas, and has a result in Ohio much like New Mexico (took almost a week to get the final vote count there), she can give the illusion that she's still a fighter, and will give confidence to her unpledged delegates that she's the "right" choice. If I were her, I'd be most concerned with circling the wagons with the SuperDelegates...the more that follow John Lewis, the more she's going to have a hard time convincing voters in primary states that she's viable.

 

STRATEGYUNIT

9:31 PM ET

February 28, 2008

It is over, when it is over.

Hillary is not done yet. Clinton and Obama's fate are not yet statistically sealed, so this appears to be all media hype behind how Clinton's campaign is supposedly over.

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SANCHOPANZA

9:58 PM ET

February 28, 2008

Two words: MULL. ET.

Clinton has one hell of a mullet. Argue me that, blogosphere, if that's your real name anyways.

 

ALTOGETHER ELSEWHERE

12:04 AM ET

February 29, 2008

I won't be convinced

that Hillary is out until she drops out of the campaign entirely. However, considering she'd have to rake up 65% victories in every state for the rest of the cycle to catch up with Obama in elected delegates, it seems very unlikely that will happen.

Obama is going to win Texas and I'm hopeful (but not optimistic) that he'll win Ohio. HRC's chances of winning Ohio are much better than winning Texas, but even if she does win, it'll be a squeaker. Personally, I'm convinced that if Obama wins Ohio, not only will he be the nominee, but he'll be the next President.

Altogether Elsewhere

 

DEPARTUREGATE

12:42 PM ET

February 29, 2008

Yay, civility

I'm rather impressed with the civility and fair-mindedness about the Clinton campaign going on in this thread, compared to other parts of the Internet. But I come to Passport to get away from the endless election coverage and fighting and to learn about the rest of the world! Report on it if you must, but please don't open up threads to invite sniping.

 

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