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Austrian politician sacked for loving Jorg Haider
Austrian politics are turning out to be uncharacteristically interesting these days. Stefan Petzner (right), the successor to Jörg Haider, was sacked yesterday after admitting to having a long-running affair with the leader of Austria's far right.
Haider died earlier this month in a high-speed car crash after drinking heavily at a gay club. Then on Wednesday, Petzner announced that Haider was "the man of my life," and that "we had a special relationship that went far beyond friendship." Before meeting Haider, the 27-year-old Petzner had previously been a journalist writing about cosmetic treatments. His ascent to the head of the party was seen as a fulfillment of Haider's last wish, as Haider had frequently mentioned that he wanted Petzner to succeed him.
Haider's homosexuality had been widely rumored, though the mainstream Austrian press had refrained from reporting on it before Petzner's tell-all interview. Haider became infamous for his seemingly sympathetic views toward the Nazi regime. If only this conflicted man was still alive, and one could confront him with evidence about what the Nazis did to people like him.












No Surprise
Interviews with Austrian reporters suggest that they knew about Haider for years but chose to respect his privacy: suggesting that they are either bad journalists or Nazi fellow-travellers. (Probably both.) The hypocricy angle seems to have been one of little interest. In the end there is little evidence of real journalism in Austria anyway (at least according to American or British standards.) If you want to understand the modern Austrian soul you should read anything by Thomas Bernhard. www.thomasbernhard.org
As for the Nazi angle. Perhaps Haider was just in it for the shiny boots. The outpouring of emotion at that drunk- driving, hitler-loving miscreant's funeral shows just how distastetful some groups of people can be.
Rediculous
It's simultaneously fun and nauseating reading commentary from people who don't know anything about what they're writing about.
I lived in Carinthia for the last two years, and everyone knew about Haider's homosexuality or bisexuality. It's just that the Austrian media tend to report on the political views and plans and actions of politicians and not on the meaningless entertainment of sexual couplings. I suppose it's hard for some Americans to imagine thinking that trade agreements are more important than what Palin is wearing. Writing that Austrian journalism isn't up to American "standards" is risible. I encountered far more engaged and lengthy political discussions in Austrian media - and a far more politically-educated population - than could ever be found in the U.S. And suggesting that reading Bernhard is a vehicle into the Austrian "soul" is like reading Chomsky to delve into Americans' "souls". You have obviously never lived in Austria, and probably have never lived in another country.
Finally, I would challenge you to find anything, anything that would qualify Haider as having had a "Nazi" angle. Prominent Americans' innuendo that Obama must prove that he isn't a Muslim - now that's some crypto-national socialism. Then, go read some Orwell and think about your use of words. "Politics and the English Language" comes to mind.
Nobody here is going to
Nobody here is going to bother helping you find well-publicized comments, Mr. Wild Cat. I'm not even sure if you deserve sarcasm or actual assistance, since your username indicates you might be one of my grade ten students, or possibly a pilot from the classic film "Top Gun".
And anyone who takes a social conservative stance deserves to have their sexuality exposed, when said sexuality happens to be abhorred by social conservatism. But that's something you might not be aware of if you are indeed fresh into high school, in which case I sincerely apologize.
I've taken a sudden pity on
I've taken a sudden pity on you.
Haider made numerous comments about "positive" National Socialist policies, including one mentioned in recent obituaries (please reference the folded dead trees at your local corner store) about employment polices. It should be noted that good employment policies (for example) are only good if they apply broadly to your citizens. In the case of Nazi Germany, employment policies for millions of citizens involved construction work (say ditch digging) with a pay cheque that some may categorize as a "bullet in the head". While on the subject of "employment", are you aware of how many of the fine buildings and roads in the Third Reich were fashioned? Not by blissful workers riding unicorns, I assure you. While perhaps not enough to qualify Haider as a "real" Nazi, it is certainly enough to qualify him as a real dick.
There, does that help?
Dear WildMan
You are right, I have never lived in Austria but I can assure you that I have spent more time in foreign countries than you have...and in more cosmopolitan places than Carinthia, the Kentucky of the Alps.
Unfortunately your defense of Austrian journalism is simply wrong....if you count meandering, academic essays as journalism then Austria certainly has something to be proud of. If you think that journalism has an obligation to speak truth to power than Austrian journalism hardly moves the needle (name one prominent Austrian journalist with an international reputation)....Anglo/American journalism is far from perfect but at least it deserves the name. As for Haider being a crypto-Nazi, that is not my judgment. It's what everyone with a sense of reality said...Don't you read anything other than Austrian newspapers? As for reading Chomsky to understand America....not a bad idea....but Bernhard on Austria is better. But Wildman, how do you feel about Kurt Waldheim? Was he also misunderstood by the unforgiving ?
The bbc's article really
The bbc's article really doesn't touch the "they were gay lovers" aspect, just skirting around it - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7685905.stm
"Kentucky of the Alps" is a
"Kentucky of the Alps" is a nice patronizing epithet, but also not true; the two are incomparable. You're 45 minutes from the Italian border, 45 minutes from the Slovenian border, 2.5 hours from Vienna, 3 hours from Germany and Venice. I would even rate those from the extremely small towns as less provincial than typical American suburbanites. Most there have been to many neighbouring countries, learn 2 foreign languages, have numerous people from other religions (Islam) and asylum seekers from the Bosnia and the Slovenian minority in their neighborhoods. And they get along fine.
Perhaps your version of social conservatism means abhorring people who are bi/gay, but that's your (American? Over 50?) social conservatism; hard to imagine, but in other countries, being socially conservative might mean something else. Even in America you've got Andrew Sullivans.
I hold the line that journalism about domestic politics is more rigorous and informed in Austria than it typically is in the U.S. Comparing, for example, the presidential "debates" with an Austrian debate makes the American debate look like a burlesque. Perhaps they have meandering essays, but Americans have meandering, 24-hour TV news. And having confrontational interviews is a form of speaking truth to power; Haider was regularly interviewed, in a patronizing way, by people who disliked him. (Can you imagine Bush giving a truly confrontational interview?). And remember, his party received practically nil support (<2%) from most states in Austria - so in any case, holding up Haider to represent Austria is incorrect. It seems to me that Americans more often speak power to truth. Here's one Haider interview in English:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akkXPmyHTYA
It certainly isn't your judgement that Haider was a crypto-Nazi - that's the whole point. You are not thinking for yourself, merely parroting what others say. I took a look at the employment quote. Referring to unemployment in the 90s:
-"Na, das hat's im Dritten Reich nicht gegeben, weil im Dritten Reich haben sie ordentliche Beschäftigungspolitik gemacht, was nicht einmal Ihre Regierung in Wien zusammenbringt."
-"No, you didn't have that in the Third Reich, becuase the Third Reich had a decent employment policy - something that your government in Vienna can't even do." (My translation)
This certainly was abominable, and 30s/40s "employment policies" did of course involve slave labour, death, torture. But I think the comment was clearly intended to say, our government is even less competent than the Third Reich. If you're going to call someone a neo-Nazi, follow Orwell, don't dilute the word, find things in their policies that warrant the name. Find a racism-based autocrat who abhors press freedoms, promotes genocide, economic and social regimentation, and the suppression of opposition. That might be someone, but I don't have evidence it was Haider.
Well my dear Kentuckian
You are absolutely right....being next to Slovenia is almost like being in Paris....only you don't have to think as much. And please stop referring to Orwell...he would find you and your suburban Nazi pal Haider ridiculous.